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Old 10-24-2016, 12:15 PM   #121
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Joe Gibbs takes Matt Jones out and he never plays again. He would rather let Chris Baker run the ball, rather than Jones.
Gibbs always had a stable of RBs...We don't really have that same luxury.

IMO, Kelly should get more work and Chris Thompson basically was the reason Cousins scored on the R/O...Thompson had been ballin all game.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:23 PM   #122
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My bigger thing is, if you set the fumble issue aside for a second, I don't see a major difference between Jones and Kelley. Jones is bigger but he doesn't always run like it, he still dances too much and doesn't always get low enough. When he does he looks pretty good, but he's too inconsistent with it.

I don't think Kelley gives you the ability to run guys over, but he's going to be decisive going into the hole. I would start Kelley.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:24 PM   #123
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Gibbs always had a stable of RBs...We don't really have that same luxury.

IMO, Kelly should get more work and Chris Thompson basically was the reason Cousins scored on the R/O...Thompson had been ballin all game.
I promise you they had no more running backs, than we do now. He would start Kelly and if Kelly gets hurt, he would bring in Chris Thompson. If they got hurt, he may just run Niles Paul. The next week they would release Jones and bring up Mack Brown.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:43 PM   #124
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My bigger thing is, if you set the fumble issue aside for a second, I don't see a major difference between Jones and Kelley. Jones is bigger but he doesn't always run like it, he still dances too much and doesn't always get low enough. When he does he looks pretty good, but he's too inconsistent with it.

I don't think Kelley gives you the ability to run guys over, but he's going to be decisive going into the hole. I would start Kelley.
The thing that bothers me about Jones fumbles is how many happen with little to no contact. Its not like he is getting blown up when he gets hit and he runs like he is Chris Thompson's size. At this point if it were me Jones wouldn't play the rest of the season
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:50 PM   #125
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Great news!!

I'm told the MRI on Trent Williams' left knee revealed no structural damage. Belief is that he might be able to play Sunday.
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Old 10-24-2016, 12:59 PM   #126
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So we should just be done with Jones?
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:00 PM   #127
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My bigger thing is, if you set the fumble issue aside for a second, I don't see a major difference between Jones and Kelley. Jones is bigger but he doesn't always run like it, he still dances too much and doesn't always get low enough. When he does he looks pretty good, but he's too inconsistent with it.

I don't think Kelley gives you the ability to run guys over, but he's going to be decisive going into the hole. I would start Kelley.
I'm guessing Gruden is seeing some potential in Jones during trainings, things that he can do better than Kelley, I'd say mainly due to his size, and still wants to give him a chance to use that potential.
Plus Thompson is an effin' good RB, but lacks the size, clearly. And Kelley is a rookie, so maybe he also has ball security issues, or other issues he'll fix in time, but we don't see them because he's getting less carries...
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So we should just be done with Jones?
I would move on, but probably not til after the season.
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:04 PM   #129
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So we should just be done with Jones?
Right? its so simple isn't it?

...I would continue to run Jones as the starter and work in more Kelly. Kelly looking like he is earning touches, but I wouldn't give up on Jones in the middle of the season.

Maybe work Kelly more as the redzone/goaline back and explain to Jones he has to earn that work back.

Thompson has clearly carve his niche.
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:08 PM   #130
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Great news!!

I'm told the MRI on Trent Williams' left knee revealed no structural damage. Belief is that he might be able to play Sunday.
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:13 PM   #132
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So we should just be done with Jones?
I would start Kelley for the next few weeks at least to see what he can do. As of right now, no way we start next season with the same 3 backs. Jones or Kelley won't be on the team next year IMHO.
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My bigger thing is, if you set the fumble issue aside for a second, I don't see a major difference between Jones and Kelley. Jones is bigger but he doesn't always run like it, he still dances too much and doesn't always get low enough. When he does he looks pretty good, but he's too inconsistent with it.

I don't think Kelley gives you the ability to run guys over, but he's going to be decisive going into the hole. I would start Kelley.
This is how I feel too. I mean I think Jones might be a bit faster, but they almost seem like clones to me (dreadlocks aside). Kelley DOES hit the hole faster. I just think Kelley should start getting the bulk of the carries and see how it goes.
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So we should just be done with Jones?
He should not be aloud to touch the ball. And released if we need the roster spot. He has cost us more than one game fumbling.
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Old 10-24-2016, 01:16 PM   #135
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Glad to hear the news on Trent

https://twitter.com/MikeJonesWaPo/st...95698429300736

When do the Redskins need to leave for London? Given this, I wonder if JNo has any shot at playing next week. I know it is a toss up with concussions, I just feel that the trip to London will add another degree of difficulty.
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