Lavar says he was misquoted - he wants to remain a redskin for his entire career

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

I doubt very seriously that LaVar needs any kind of coddling to perform. There's a huge gap between coddling and berating. And they're not trying to push LaVar to see how he responds, they're pushing him out the door.

Well, that's your take on it.

Why are they pushing him out the door then?

Because they don't like him??

There has to be a legit reason behind this, that's all I'm looking for.

LaVar has proven to be a very emotional guy who tends to take things the wrong way and pout when things aren't going his way. I doubt the staff is treating him poorly for no good reason.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

What was I thinking Lavar the coach should not get on you about missing assignments, you are Mr. Redskin and the fans love you.

Unless the coaches also flip out on Springs for every missed tackle, or Taylor for every blown coverage, or Wynn for being practically useless, then it's obvious that LaVar is being singled out. Other players seem to agree is the case too.

[gibbs4life]

hey lavar are you a redskin and if so play like one with heart.
the redskins will move on but do you want to go with them or without them
lavar i liked you since you have been here but it,s up to you.

oh yeah don,t we play the eagles this weekend

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Because they don't like him??

There has to be a legit reason behind this, that's all I'm looking for.

Originally Posted by Mike Wise

He won't say who, but we already know where and with whom the enmity began. Snyder, the team owner who made him fabulously rich and befriended his charismatic, handsome linebacking star, dumped him quicker than AOL stock. From the moment Arrington filed a contract grievance in March 2004, contending the team omitted $6.5 million in bonus money agreed upon for the 2006 season, he was shuttled out of Snyder' suite and sent to the doghouse. The Redskins said they did not owe Arrington the money, and the linebacker eventually dropped the arbitration case.

But with Snyder no longer in his corner, it became open season on Arrington for the coaching staff.

When Arrington was hardly playing in late September and early October this season, he saw Snyder in a hallway and was about to offer some pleasantries. "Don't talk to me," the owner said, according to a person who saw the encounter. "I didn't have anything to do with this."

When Gibbs and his coaching staff took over the team two years ago, they did not consider Arrington to be part of the solution to the franchise's woes; they saw him as another impediment. They believed Arrington could not curb his individualism for the good of the team. They never got around the perception that he could not fit in. They saw Arrington as a nuisance -- a high-maintenance, high-salaried star who could never live up to his Pro Bowl aura or reputation.

Now I know this article is all completely false, because the coaches haven't ever said anything other than, "he misses assignments", but in my eyes, this tells me that they prejudged LaVar, and have viewed him as a problem from the start.

Now I'm not completely in LaVar's corner, because I do think this was a horrible time to make these comments to the media, but obviously, he's been getting the sh-t end of the stick since the new coaching regime got here.

[LadyT]

Wow, that Post article was really mind-boggling. Very sad to see LaVar treated this way. Interesting comment by another player who wisely chose to remain anonymous. Who would dare to speak out after seeing LaVar berated this way?

LaVar is in no way totally innocent in all of this and I am not implying that he is. But, this organization has treated a very talented and loyal player very poorly. Things have gotten so bad that they seem to be going out of their way to find fault with him. If he is so unstrustworthy on the field, then surely many, many other players are even more so. I always thought that they allowed him to return as a starter only grudgingly, after the public questioning and outcry became too much for them to deal with.

As for me, give me 11 defensive players with LaVar's talent and enthusiasm any day of the week, over "the system and the scheme". Sadly, I think things have gone too far to ever be smoothed over. LaVar will be gone and the Skins will be the biggest losers in all of this.

I hope he goes on to greater challenges and victories, whether it be in football or another field. LaVar, you are right, most of the fans love you. Too bad your owner and some of your coaches have no more use for you.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this organization (Snyder et. al) seem to have a knack for creating scenarios that lead to nasty departures for many star players. I'm not including Gibbs in this, because he has always treated his players with respect. But, I'm not sure I can say the same for some of his current assistant coaches.

[LadyT]

Originally Posted by mheisig

Gosh that's a sad article. Sure, Lavar isn't some completely innocent little child in all of this, but it sure sounds like a guy who really believed in and loved the Redskins organization only to be tossed aside.

I'm glad he has some perspective on life and I'm sure he'll be successful after football. It's quite a testament to his love for the organization that he will pretty much retire before playing anywhere else.

Yes, I know, the team is more than just one guy. But it sure is sad seeing one good player after another getting cast aside like trash.

The team IS more than the individual player, but it shouldn't be at the expense of the individual.

I couldn't agree more. The Snyder regime has cast aside many good players and, in a lot of cases, they left with plenty of bitter memories of how they were treated. It's not just LaVar -- he is just next in a long line of players that have been poorly treated by this organization.

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Unless the coaches also flip out on Springs for every missed tackle, or Taylor for every blown coverage, or Wynn for being practically useless, then it's obvious that LaVar is being singled out. Other players seem to agree is the case too.

I would be completely surprised if GW and the coaching staff has not jumped on other players about missed assignments, the difference we do not know because like the majority of other players it comes with the territory. I don't remeber any player saying Lavar was singled out and the coaches do not get on anyone but him. I recall everyone saying GW lets everyone know if they are not playing up to par along with Greg Blache and Dale Lindsey are all outspoken and demand the best out of their players and ride them all. Professionals keep that in house and don't take it personal each person is accountable and should be able to handle criticism. Nobody said they were going to Bench him for the mistakes, but in game of this importance do you not really think if you are making mistakes that could cost your team a coach is not going to get into your ass.

[EternalEnigma21]

The saddest thing in all of this, is that when we were losing... snyder was still making an assload of money on the team, and I for one only had Lavar to look forward to seeing play on sundays. That was about the only thing I got joy from when we were basically a laughing stock for the league, was LA layin people out and killing QB's. I want him to be a part of a winning Redskins football team, and when he signed his contract extention, he was content with being a Redskin for life even though we were going through coaches and blowing seasons left and right. Now we're winning, and we cant make room for the guy. Its a sad story.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by skins052bgr8

I don't remeber any player saying Lavar was singled out and the coaches do not get on anyone but him.

Originally Posted by Mike Wise

He finally hung up on Lindsey, and the feud carried over into the locker room, growing more profane and personal. It ended with Arrington telling Lindsey to "Back off!" and "Treat me like a man!" According to two persons privy to the altercation, the coach went a tad more overboard than the player.

"I was thinking, 'Enough already,' " said one player, on condition of anonymity. "Let LaVar be."

I'm not saying LaVar is the only player who gets yelled at, but at least a few people thought this altercation was getting "profane and personal", and another player thought Lindsey was going over the line, and not just giving the typical "getting on him" speech.

[railcon56]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

The saddest thing in all of this, is that when we were losing... snyder was still making an assload of money on the team, and I for one only had Lavar to look forward to seeing play on sundays. That was about the only thing I got joy from when we were basically a laughing stock for the league, was LA layin people out and killing QB's. I want him to be a part of a winning Redskins football team, and when he signed his contract extention, he was content with being a Redskin for life even though we were going through coaches and blowing seasons left and right. Now we're winning, and we cant make room for the guy. Its a sad story.

I am very sad like u...these people just dont understand all they know is shut up lavar....i know what u mean he deserves to be a part of this....and they cant understand the way he feels i am hurt by this too and i have been a skins fan since 1972 but i am not even excited by this game i feel sick that they could treat this man like this...

[railcon56]

I never thought i could feel anything but love and pride for the REDSKINS but this makes me sick and not wanna watch football

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

Now I know this article is all completely false, because the coaches haven't ever said anything other than, "he misses assignments", but in my eyes, this tells me that they prejudged LaVar, and have viewed him as a problem from the start.

Now I'm not completely in LaVar's corner, because I do think this was a horrible time to make these comments to the media, but obviously, he's been getting the sh-t end of the stick since the new coaching regime got here.

Everyone else bought into assignments and proving day in and day out that we work as a team we win as a team. Lavar himself said I didn't know I had to show them in practice. How could he not they preach the off season program and the importance of practice since the get go. What part of the article did you assume was fact and that evidence is there to say they prejudged him ohh yeah it is because Mike Wise of the Post wrote it so it has to be fact or was the final nail in the couffin when after Lavar got yelled at by Lindsey and he has another outburst. The simple thing is they are building a team and they expect things from everybody on a team. Lavar can play and I don't care if he freelances I love watching him make plays, but I am not the coach and I do not make a game plan for individuals to follow to help this team win they do. These coaches are day in and day out coaching players 52 other players and one who has had his ego driven by diehard Arrington fans since 2000 who love the big play capability that he brings, but how come the other 52 are not crying the blues. Arrington is the only one who believes he can play within a system are all the coaches he played for and those players who played beside him all against him as well when they say he is out of position at times more so than many other players. Just play damn it, and stop worrying about what people write or say. I will be completely surprised if he follows through with the retiring mumbo jumbo, his demeanor and comments change like the wind. It is a business and no player is above the team, the owner, or the organization. Bailey was tired of the turnover, nothing against him so he chose to leave, Coles did not want to be here so see ya, Smoot and Pierce said they wanted to be here, but after releasing Coles and the cap hit we could not afford what they were asking for and the coaches made the call why am I going to pay Smoot more than the best corner Springs that is on the roster, that is the direction we are going sorry they missed the boat when we would have paid market value or higher for an individual. Those signings went much further than this year and looked at years ahead salary hits. It was not they were done wrong by the organization, they just could not fit a suitable contract to keep Pierce or Smoot they made a very reasonable offer they did not just say we are not going to be competitive you are not worth anything to us, but we are not going to break the bank. Then again their feelings were hurt due to the way Spurrier and Snyder ran the show in previous years and times are different under Gibbs and Snyder. Build for more stabalized team, no matter how hard you try you are going to loose key players, it happens to everyone. Forget Ty Law was just done so wrong by what most say is the best built team or one of the best built teams. You can't keep dipping in Free Agency and signing big name players or resigning them to lucrative contracts, IT IS NOT PERSONAL!

[skins052bgr8]

Originally Posted by railcon56@comcast.net

I am very sad like u...these people just dont understand all they know is shut up lavar....i know what u mean he deserves to be a part of this....and they cant understand the way he feels i am hurt by this too and i have been a skins fan since 1972 but i am not even excited by this game i feel sick that they could treat this man like this...

I have not heard anyone from the organization say Lavar does not fit into future plans, only Lavar speculating on his Cap hit. Beyond that the second half of the season he has been playing happy and says he was wrong he was not ready to play the first couple weeks (applaud Lavar you are handling this so well ), all is good until he gets jumped on by Lindsey this weekend (This organization does not want me I may retire) (applaud Lavar he is a true Redskin he won't play for another team he loves this organization). You weap for Lavar because he makes you want to weap for him. I agree he deserves to be a apart of this team in the future, but he is not a victim. I have said before I love what Lavar brought in the seasons we were loosing, he was the only exciting thing, but we were loosing no playoff trips not his fault, but it is beyond him carrying this team now we have good coaches, playmakers in other positions, and a team attitude

[MTK]

Poor, poor LaVar. How will the team win without him?

Oh, that's right, they already have.

[FirstandTen]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Poor, poor LaVar. How will the team win without him?

Oh, that's right, they already have.

Exactly!!