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Old 06-10-2019, 06:55 PM   #16
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Re: What kind of production does Doctson need in 2019 to stay with on them team ?

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Really, what is the plan? to stink for 3 years and lose $$$$ in a 5th-year option
To not be a Redskin. He got his rookie contract money and did not do anything to earn it. 5th year options benefits the team that has a great 5th year player, not the other way around. Now this little bitch can play for a big contract next year. He will he free. See how it benefits him?
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Old 06-10-2019, 09:13 PM   #17
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To not be a Redskin. He got his rookie contract money and did not do anything to earn it. 5th year options benefits the team that has a great 5th year player, not the other way around. Now this little bitch can play for a big contract next year. He will he free. See how it benefits him?

So paying Doctson $10 million in the 5th year would benefit the Redskins????

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingt...doctson-18970/
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Old 06-10-2019, 10:15 PM   #18
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So paying Doctson $10 million in the 5th year would benefit the Redskins????

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingt...doctson-18970/
No, that's why they didn't exercise it. BUT when a team does choose to use it, it generally is to their benefit, ie Scherff. IF Dotson had become a receiver worthy of the 1st round pick, and he hit the market, his value likely would have been 13-17 million per year.
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Old 06-10-2019, 11:50 PM   #19
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No, that's why they didn't exercise it. BUT when a team does choose to use it, it generally is to their benefit, ie Scherff. IF Dotson had become a receiver worthy of the 1st round pick, and he hit the market, his value likely would have been 13-17 million per year.
Maybe the Redskins get a slight benefit in his 5th-year option....all contracts are subject to the change in the market.

However, Scherff is the 3rd highest paid guard in 2019.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/guard/
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Old 06-11-2019, 01:47 PM   #20
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Gruden says he “cant promise” that Josh Doctson is going to get a ton of opportunities considering the other talent on the offense. Doctson will get his chances."

Translation = Gruden is done with Doctson.
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Old 06-11-2019, 02:14 PM   #21
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Gruden says he “cant promise” that Josh Doctson is going to get a ton of opportunities considering the other talent on the offense. Doctson will get his chances."

Translation = Gruden is done with Doctson.


Doctson = Shawn Bradley, Gruden= Vince Carter
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Old 06-11-2019, 02:48 PM   #22
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Gruden says he “cant promise” that Josh Doctson is going to get a ton of opportunities considering the other talent on the offense. Doctson will get his chances."

Translation = Gruden is done with Doctson.
Yep, and he should be. Dude just isn't good
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Old 06-11-2019, 04:58 PM   #23
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Yep, and he should be. Dude just isn't good
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Maybe the Redskins get a slight benefit in his 5th-year option....all contracts are subject to the change in the market.

However, Scherff is the 3rd highest paid guard in 2019.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/guard/
And if we didn't have the 5th year option Scherff? My guess is he would have been the top FA Oline OR we would have franchised him. Either one would have been less team favorable. The 5th year option on star players benefits the team immensely, while giving the player literally nothing in return.
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Old 06-12-2019, 07:10 PM   #25
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Doctson = Shawn Bradley, Gruden= Vince Carter


As a Sixer fan this makes me ill. Bruce Bowen went undrafted that year! Makes you wonder how many great ones never even get the chance because of the Shawn Bradleys in the world. Anywho.....
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Old 06-13-2019, 04:43 AM   #26
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That makes no sense, if he finally breaks out he'll earn a nice 2nd contract so why wouldn't it happen here?
How does one great year and three below average years earn him a second contract ?...you have to look at his entire body of work.
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How does one great year and three below average years earn him a second contract ?...you have to look at his entire body of work.
Progression. See: McCardell, Keenan.

He didn't have more than 13 catches in a season until his 5th year but he finished his career with nearly 900 receptions.
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:28 PM   #28
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Progression. See: McCardell, Keenan.

He didn't have more than 13 catches in a season until his 5th year but he finished his career with more than Art Monk.
I don't think so.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/MonkAr00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/McCaKe00.htm
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Old 06-13-2019, 02:41 PM   #29
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My bad, I don't know why I always remember Monk at 840, but you get my point.

I'll edit my post.
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My bad, I don't know why I always remember Monk at 840, but you get my point.



I'll edit my post.


Great examples regardless. My gut tells me he is an absolute bust but yeah guys like you referenced give me hope that he can get on track. Sooner the damn better too...
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