Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer

chris36 · 10-09-2006, 01:02 PM

I hate to say it, but Joe is becoming to concervative. In his first go around he was a risk taker. Now he plays not loose. I could not believe it when they did not go for it on forth down, I watched them pass on third and one and said to myself, I guess Joe figured that he was in four down territory and was going to run on forth down. I was shocked when they kicked a field goal. This showed no confidence in our offense and at 16 to 3made no real sense. If they had scored a touch down the momentum would have been completely turned around. We need to play to win. Come on Joe, remember those fake punts, remember those forth and ones(John Riggins, superbowl). Joe was an offensive powerhouse the first time around.

JWsleep · 10-09-2006, 01:09 PM

I thnk there's already a "coaching rant" thread....

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-09-2006, 01:09 PM

I'm not going to comment on the topic, as I know it is going to bring an onslaught of harsh posts. Be prepared my friend.

RobH4413 · 10-09-2006, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris36

I hate to say it, but Joe is becoming to concervative. In his first go around he was a risk taker. Now he plays not loose. I could not believe it when they did not go for it on forth down, I watched them pass on third and one and said to myself, I guess Joe figured that he was in four down territory and was going to run on forth down. I was shocked when they kicked a field goal. This showed no confidence in our offense and at 16 to 3made no real sense. If they had scored a touch down the momentum would have been completely turned around. We need to play to win. Come on Joe, remember those fake punts, remember those forth and ones(John Riggins, superbowl). Joe was an offensive powerhouse the first time around.

At the time, I wanted to see them go for it.

But as a coach you have to consider a few things.

1) Can you kicker make that

A: Yes, the fact that he missed is awful, but hindsight is always 20-20. Hall is a very good kicker and I would think of that as an automatic 3. Scoring some points may have given the redskins some much needed momentum, and could have potentially changed the game

2) Can you convert the 4 and 1?

A: I'd say it was 50-50. The Giants had been winning the trench fight all game long and they had confidence. Playing in their home stadium with there crowd behind them, It would have been a very very tough yard to gain. CP is more outside of an outside the tackles runner, and outside the tackles is where there strength is.

illdefined · 10-09-2006, 01:15 PM

I'll comment. not toughing out that 4th and 1 in a tough divisional away game when you're behind sent a direct message to the offense that they weren't believed in. and they played accordingly after that.

huge missed opportunity. and i think Gibbs's first real apparent mistake this season. regardless if the FG was made or not.

chris36 · 10-09-2006, 01:23 PM

Hey, I did not care if we made the field goal or not. It seemed to me that the three points were not going to help us. That is my point. It was not like we were behind by ten or for that matter 17. We did not need a field goal at the time.

724Skinsfan · 10-09-2006, 01:26 PM

Who's Mary? Is that Mary's wife?

dall-assblows · 10-09-2006, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

Who's Mary? Is that Mary's wife?

you mean marty's wife

dall-assblows · 10-09-2006, 01:32 PM

i don't know what
MARY shottenhiemer is like but i think she is nothing lke gibbs

gibbsisgod · 10-09-2006, 01:36 PM

I'm sorry chris but I would hate to have you as a coach. At the time Hall missed that FG there was still 1:14 left in the 3rd quarter. It was only a 42 yarder and would have brought us within 10. TAKE THE POINTS every time when you are in that situation. If Hall makes that we only need a TD and another FG to tie. If you go for it and dont get it then you would still need 2 TDs to win, not to mention you now have nothing to show fora very productive drive. You cant honestly say it was a bad coaching desicion, can you?

RobH4413 · 10-09-2006, 01:38 PM

hahaha, i totally missed Mary Shottemhiemer

i guess i was being to concervative....

*sigh...

god save us all

RobH4413 · 10-09-2006, 01:39 PM

matty i think, due to the comical lack of effort in posting,

its safe to close this thread...

dall-assblows · 10-09-2006, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbsisgod

I'm sorry chris but I would hate to have you as a coach. At the time Hall missed that FG there was still 1:14 left in the 3rd quarter. It was only a 42 yarder and would have brought us within 10. TAKE THE POINTS every time when you are in that situation. If Hall makes that we only need a TD and another FG to tie. If you go for it and dont get it then you would still need 2 TDs to win, not to mention you now have nothing to show fora very productive drive. You cant honestly say it was a bad coaching desicion, can you?

can i rent your space?

chris36 · 10-09-2006, 01:46 PM

Its not bad coaching, I just think it was to conservative. I think he has gotten more conservative that he was in the past. I do not think we were out coached, by any means. I just did not like that particular decision. I think that our secondary is in real trouble, talent wise. We need Springs back, just to be average. We also need better linebacking.

MTK · 10-09-2006, 01:50 PM

Man it's going to be a long week

10-09-2006, 01:02 PM	#1
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer I hate to say it, but Joe is becoming to concervative. In his first go around he was a risk taker. Now he plays not loose. I could not believe it when they did not go for it on forth down, I watched them pass on third and one and said to myself, I guess Joe figured that he was in four down territory and was going to run on forth down. I was shocked when they kicked a field goal. This showed no confidence in our offense and at 16 to 3made no real sense. If they had scored a touch down the momentum would have been completely turned around. We need to play to win. Come on Joe, remember those fake punts, remember those forth and ones(John Riggins, superbowl). Joe was an offensive powerhouse the first time around.

10-09-2006, 01:09 PM	#2
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 55 Posts: 4,702	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer I thnk there's already a "coaching rant" thread.... __________________ Hail from Houston!

10-09-2006, 01:09 PM	#3
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 44 Posts: 8,317	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer I'm not going to comment on the topic, as I know it is going to bring an onslaught of harsh posts. Be prepared my friend.

10-09-2006, 01:15 PM	#5
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 47 Posts: 2,631	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer I'll comment. not toughing out that 4th and 1 in a tough divisional away game when you're behind sent a direct message to the offense that they weren't believed in. and they played accordingly after that. huge missed opportunity. and i think Gibbs's first real apparent mistake this season. regardless if the FG was made or not. __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

10-09-2006, 01:23 PM	#6
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer Hey, I did not care if we made the field goal or not. It seemed to me that the three points were not going to help us. That is my point. It was not like we were behind by ten or for that matter 17. We did not need a field goal at the time.

10-09-2006, 01:26 PM	#7
724Skinsfan Playmaker Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 3,508	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer Who's Mary? Is that Mary's wife? __________________ "I hope I'm getting better. I hope you haven't seen my best." - Jim Zorn

10-09-2006, 01:32 PM	#9
dall-assblows The Starter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: round the way Age: 40 Posts: 2,211	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer i don't know what MARY shottenhiemer is like but i think she is nothing lke gibbs

10-09-2006, 01:36 PM	#10
gibbsisgod Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 129 W 81st street Age: 44 Posts: 3,503	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer I'm sorry chris but I would hate to have you as a coach. At the time Hall missed that FG there was still 1:14 left in the 3rd quarter. It was only a 42 yarder and would have brought us within 10. TAKE THE POINTS every time when you are in that situation. If Hall makes that we only need a TD and another FG to tie. If you go for it and dont get it then you would still need 2 TDs to win, not to mention you now have nothing to show fora very productive drive. You cant honestly say it was a bad coaching desicion, can you? Last edited by gibbsisgod; 10-09-2006 at 01:41 PM. Reason: What game were you watching?

10-09-2006, 01:38 PM	#11
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 38 Posts: 2,635	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer hahaha, i totally missed Mary Shottemhiemer i guess i was being to concervative.... *sigh... god save us all __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

10-09-2006, 01:39 PM	#12
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 38 Posts: 2,635	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer matty i think, due to the comical lack of effort in posting, its safe to close this thread... __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

10-09-2006, 01:46 PM	#14
chris36 Special Teams Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 183	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer Its not bad coaching, I just think it was to conservative. I think he has gotten more conservative that he was in the past. I do not think we were out coached, by any means. I just did not like that particular decision. I think that our secondary is in real trouble, talent wise. We need Springs back, just to be average. We also need better linebacking.

10-09-2006, 01:50 PM	#15
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,313	Re: Joe Gibbs becoming like Mary Schottemhiemer Man it's going to be a long week __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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