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Old 03-11-2012, 03:35 PM   #31
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Off season target positions: RT swing OT, Safety, DL, OG, ILB, WR/TE, CB, QB

Offensive focus: Increasing 'explosive' plays

The sure fire way to increase everyone's productivity as individuals and as an offensive unit (including the coaching staff) is physical superiority at the POA.
For me the A#1 area that holds the offense back is the OL and particularly RT.
Shotty pass protection, average to below average run blocking and no depth.
Its a very sad state of affairs when Stephon Heyer has been the best player at that position over the last few years.* Team Needs 2012...Washington Redskins | ProFootballFocus.com

According to nfl.com the Redskins were last in deep ball passer rating of 25.4*. Exit Interview: Offensive issues root of the Redskins' woes | NFL.com
Robert Griffin's velocity and deep ball distance/touch alone should improve those numbers.
But, the surest way to help the QB, especially a rookie QB, is to protect him.
One of the overlooked reason for Cam Newton's success in Carolina was outstanding pass protection.

Enough of the pre-amble.
My number 1 offseason need is RT.

I love Reggie Smith he could prove to be the steal of the draft but he also could prove to be nothing more then Stephon Heyer quality depth but merely a marginal starter.
But, imo were not in a position to gamble on Smith when the in house alternative, Jammal Brown, is a gamble in his own right.
Short of an outright long term upgrade, I think we owe it to Griffin to afford him the best RT we can find even if their only a stop gap.

But the RT FA pickings for an outright upgrade are slim and maybe the best we can do is quality depth?

Defensive focus: Shoring up the back end of the secondary and improving overall i.e. DL

The safety play wasn't terrible net-net I think it was much better then the RT play.
Yet, we a have FA in Landry that is a huge injury risk and a starter in Atogwe that also an injury risk and only 1 serviceable back-up in Doughty.

FA:
RT:
Demetrius Bell (upgrade), Jared Gaither (upgrade but high risk), Khalif Barnes (steady), Vernon Carey (slight upgrade?/steady player)

WR: Eddie Royal-
not a big interest for me in a big name FA WR, I'm assuming Hankerson comes back healthy and look forward to watching how a healthy Moss, Gaffney, Armstrong work together with a developing Hankerson, Paul, Ausitn and Robinson

S:
Reggie Smith, Corey Lynch, Brandon Meriweather, Craig Steltz, Haruki Nakamura, Zbikowski, Atari Bigby

NT:
I love Cofield but I believe the greatest benefit to the DL would occur if there was a good enough player at NT to move Cofield to DE.

Sione Pouha, Paul Soliai, Aubrayo Franklin

Draft:

Round 3- Harrison Smith S, Mychal Kendricks ILB, Mitchell Schwartz OT

Round 4-Alameda Ta'aamu NT, Brandon Brooks OG, Matt McCants

Round 4-Chris Rainey (?), Aaron Henry S, Tommy Streeter WR, Lardarius Green, Cyrus Gray RB

Round 5- (Should Vontaze Burifect fall swoop him up)*
Micheal Egnew TE, Nate Potter OT, Ryan Broyles WR, Terrance Ganaway FB/RB, Marvin McNutt WR, AJ Jenkins WR, Ron Brooks CB, Coty Sensabaugh

Round 6-UDFA: Chris Owusu WR
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Old 03-11-2012, 03:43 PM   #32
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I would pick Soliai over Pouha or Franklin, but he may be expensive. Right now I'd only be willing to spend $$ on a safety or a LB (if we don't sign Fletcher) on defense.

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Okay, crazy idea hour. Maybe the worst idea I've ever had:

The Redskins should trade for DeSean Jackson.
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Okay, crazy idea hour. Maybe the worst idea I've ever had:

The Redskins should trade for DeSean Jackson.
Not a bad idea but they won't give us him
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Okay, crazy idea hour. Maybe the worst idea I've ever had:

The Redskins should trade for DeSean Jackson.
Here is another crazy idea, let's not ever deal with Iggles...ever.

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Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

OL , WR , CB maybe a big NT . If I could sign RB) M . Bush ( Oakland ) without a Lg bonus I would . 240 lb power back and I believe a strong running game is a young Qb's best friend . Not that I don't like our rb's , but would like to bring in a big power back .
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we need a burner for RG3's bombs. and a safety, we are in a bad spot there when laron leaves, i dont trust gomes, and theres not many good safetys on the market. i think we need to draft one in the 3rd.
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Re: Griffin's impact on the off-season FA/draft

Now that we've solved the QB issue, our #1 priority is at WR. I've been hot and cold on Jackson, looking at his age and the big $$ he will command. As of now I'm cold.. I'd rather see us spend on Garçon and Royal at WR and draft Joe Adams or Brian Quick in the third. Our second biggest need, almost 1a now is a RT that can get to the second level on the run and anchor for the boot action. With RGIII we will be running whole lot more boot so the need is increased.
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If A Robinson WR makes the squad he will be the burner we need IMO.
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RT: harris
CB: carr
WR: meachem/royal/laurent robinson
ILB: fletch/tulloch
OG: 3rd round
Safety: anyone! ours suck.

no crazy cap stuff needed...
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If A Robinson WR makes the squad he will be the burner we need IMO.
Aldrick Robinson is a good pick as a deep sleeper to make an impact this year.
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Now that we've solved the QB issue, our #1 priority is at WR.
I think it would be nice to upgrade the WR spot but I guess I'm the only one that doesn't see it as a need?

Gaffney had one of, if not, his most productive seasons.
I haven't heard too much about Hankerson's injury but I'm gonna assume he's coming back 100% healthy.
There are a finite number of targets and I don't want to hinder/stall the development of Hankerson by burrying him on the depth chart where he'll struggle to get 1st/2nd team practice reps much less game targets.

If you agree that injuries and a long ball challenged QB had a negative effect on the production of Moss and Armstong then its not unreasonable to view them as players talented enough put up these numbers:

Armstrong: 44 rec 871 yards 19.8 YPC

Moss: 93 catches for 1115 yards (both top 10)

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Maybe Indy picks RGIII and we end up with Luck, you never know. I say trade the 3rd, one of the 4th rounders and add Hall to move into the 2nd round and pick a CB, S, OL or WR whatever looks best in that round.
After all that we gave up to move 4 spots in the 1st and you are sitting here suggesting we trade yet more picks to move up in the second? You should be kicked in the nuts for even thinking such a thought.
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I'd like to see them approach it aggressively. Not reckless.

I would sign these players to relatively large money deals:

S LaRon Landry
The irony in this is overwhelming. You don't want them to approach it recklessly, but you want them to give LL a large money deal?

NOTHING. I mean NOTHING that LL has done in the course of his career deserves any sort of big money. As lame as the Pro-Bowl is, the guy couldn't even get voted into one of those...lol
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After all that we gave up to move 4 spots in the 1st and you are sitting here suggesting we trade yet more picks to move up in the second? You should be kicked in the nuts for even thinking such a thought.

Classic, I can't stop laughing.
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