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Old 09-19-2022, 07:48 AM   #61
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When kurl comes back McCain should shit his ass down somewhere. That dude is so bad. I only got to see the 4th Qtr yesterday and it was enough to see why we lost.

Where was our DL???

We can’t stop the run or the pass.

This is a major issue and it’s not going to be fixed unless JDR is gone
Del Rio sucks but the guys were have aren't any good. There is a serious lack of talent along all 3 levels of the defense.
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Old 09-19-2022, 07:52 AM   #62
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Del Rio sucks but the guys were have aren't any good. There is a serious lack of talent along all 3 levels of the defense.

Yeah our corners are toast , LBs can cover either. Gonna be a long season


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Old 09-19-2022, 09:14 AM   #63
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Studs and Duds from game. Hard to argue with the list and the notes.

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Old 09-19-2022, 09:16 AM   #64
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Where was our DL???
Toohill and Wise were injured, so now we have 0 depth, not that gaving the depth did much for us
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:45 AM   #65
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Toohill and Wise were injured, so now we have 0 depth, not that gaving the depth did much for us
Ever since Ron decided to play GM and got rid of Kyle Smith and brought his retreads. we’ve gotten rid of our DL line depth for subpar players
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:49 AM   #66
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Toohill and Wise were injured, so now we have 0 depth, not that gaving the depth did much for us
What? Wise was our no. 3 DT and Toothill is effective for the limited snaps he gets (he had 2 pressures last week in limited snaps)

Wow ... DT depth is a problem. Allen playing hurt and Wise NEEDS to be ready vs Eagles.
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Run D - on most runs, there are O lineman getting quickly to the second level and just attaching themselves and locking down the LB, particularly Holcomb. DT needs to keep our LBs clean but our LBs need to shed some blocks and make some plays.

If Holcomb isnt getting blanketed with a block he is over pursuing and taking himself away from the attack.

Last year, 3rd down pass coverage w Bostic was the achillies heel. 2 games this year, its the run D.

191 yards when their best guy Swift was limited. When you knew they were going to come in and establish the run. When you had all week to come up with a game plan.

Holcomb isnt going anywhere .. we didnt add or train another guy to be the green dot. Mayo/bostic arent answers.

LB play .... everyone questioned it going into the season, so far its the biggest issue.
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Old 09-19-2022, 09:55 AM   #67
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DL - we entered this season with Allen, Payne, Mathis and Wise. Thats 2 1st rounders, 2nd R and Wise who I think is a really really good 4th DT.

I cant get mad at the FO for going with those 4. That is a strong unit without a hint of injury going into the season. What are we going to do, carry 5 or 6 DT?

mathis out, Allen hurt, Wise knocked out of game ...
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:49 AM   #68
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Holcomb is a backup linebacker on a good defense. On our sorry ass trashcan defense, he is our "best" linebacker. This defense stinks. We need another 2 DB's and another 2 LB's before this defense will ever be shit. And they all need to be coached by someone other than JDR.
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:55 AM   #69
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Holcomb is a backup linebacker on a good defense. On our sorry ass trashcan defense, he is our "best" linebacker. This defense stinks. We need another 2 DB's and another 2 LB's before this defense will ever be shit. And they all need to be coached by someone other than JDR.
Yeah man, we will give up a SHIT TON of yards and points this yr.. Chase Young can't fix these problems and hell he may not even be fully back for a while anyway..

The Eagles game could get UGLY fast
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Old 09-19-2022, 10:55 AM   #70
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Holcomb is a backup linebacker on a good defense. On our sorry ass trashcan defense, he is our "best" linebacker. This defense stinks. We need another 2 DB's and another 2 LB's before this defense will ever be shit. And they all need to be coached by someone other than JDR.
I think the heat needs to be on JDR. He's been DC for 3 years and the same issues are happening. No team can have all-pros at every position, and I feel it is up to him to make this bunch work. I honestly don't think the issues are stemming purely from lack of talent, but more from coaching deficiencies.
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Old 09-19-2022, 11:08 AM   #71
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Holcomb, Jackson, Rivera , JDR - all stink.
Our offensive line is trash too.

This team isn’t winning more than 5 games.
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Old 09-19-2022, 11:14 AM   #72
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I think JDR gets time to try some adjustments and see if he can turn this around.

He did figure out (kinda) the 3rd and long issue after 4 or so weeks last season.

Run D .. was not on my list of anticipated issues entering this season. Run D and Terry have been our only 2 consistent strong features past couple years.
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Old 09-19-2022, 11:31 AM   #73
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Re: Lions postgame

https://twitter.com/RiggosRag/status...C49ZCgw88rAAAA

Ben Standig said he heard from the Lions' beat guy that the Lions players including St. Brown told him they had a really easy beat on the defense. They could see on tape there were certain offensive formations that confused the defenders among them they were confident that the fly sweep would work on this defense. And St. Brown said he could see when he had the ball on the sweep thst no one recognized on the defense he had the ball until it was too late.

I recently heard from someone on one our message boards that Jay Gruden once said (paraphrased), "Del Rio is one of the easiest defensive coordinators to scheme against. He doesn't try to trick you."
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Old 09-19-2022, 11:37 AM   #74
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Holcomb, Jackson, Rivera , JDR - all stink.
Our offensive line is trash too.

This team isn’t winning more than 5 games.
The schedule is soft, they'll win 6 or 7 games and Ron should be fired right after the season
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Old 09-19-2022, 12:05 PM   #75
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Get some positivity here on a moody Monday

https://www.hogshaven.com/2022/9/19/...nse-yes-really

Not surprising. Running game is bad. Not blaming Gibson here. O-line anyone?
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