Is the End Near For Bruce Allen?

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Warthog you keep assuming you know what the Texans offered for Trent. But we don’t even know if the Texans offered anything for Trent. It’s a tremendous hole in your argument that renders all of your ranting entirely moot.

Do you think that Bruce Allen is going to admit that the Texans called, or offered any type of deal? All I’ve said is that the Texans called the Redskins, because that was reported in several newspapers and fan sites. I never said the Texans offered anything, because all the reports were that the Redskins immediate reply was that they didn’t want to talk to anyone about a trade.

My point, which you missed, was that Bruce Allen COULD have talked to the Texans. Not that he did, nor did I say they made any offer.

Furthermore, TW and Bruce Allen had a conversation this summer, according to BA. Neither Bruce Allen, nor Trent William will say what was discussed when they talked. But from the beginning, according to the news sources, BA has refused to talk to anyone about a trade.

Last week Bruce said TW was coming back to play for us. Through Deangelo Hall, TW AGAIN said he was never going to play for the Redskins. How many times does he have to say it?

If you want to believe that Bruce Allen is managing this crisis well, that’s your opinion. But the Texans did call the Redskins about TW and Bruce Allen at least could have listened to what they had to say. Later the Texans gave a huge and one-sided trade to Miami for a OT. We will never know if they offered or would have offered such a generous deal to the Redskins. But we missed a POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY first with the Patriots and now with the Texans. I’m not the only one who’s saying this, read the “Riggo’s Report” site, they also said BA missed a chance with the Texans, in an article written yesterday.

Believe what you want. I believe what Trent Williams is saying, not Bruce Allen. I’ve seen BA mismanage the Cousins situation , I saw the survey of agents and NFL players last year in USA Today, listing BA as the least trustworthy and least prepared GM in the NFL. I can’t figure out what his strategy is with TW is, except that he appears to be engaged in a lot of wishful thinking. Hope is not a strategy.

The longer we wait, the less market value TW will have. If you believe that Bruce Allen has a good plan for Trent Williams, I hope you’re right.


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[Warthog]

If anyone wants to see the opportunity Bruce Allen might have missed with the Texan’s as they sought an Offensive Tackle : here are a couple good articles on this subject:

Fan Site: Riggo’s Rag
2 days ago

Article: “Redskin’s Miss Opportunity in Wake of Texan’s Laremy Tunsill Trade”

Another article: “Redskins 5 Biggest Cut Day Surprises In Washington”
....see surprise #2

The Texans, as far as anyone knows, made NO OFFER to the Redskins in a trade for Trent Williams. Still, just talking to the Texan’s night wouldn’t have cost us anything.


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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Warthog

If anyone wants to see the opportunity Bruce Allen might have missed with the Texan’s as they sought an Offensive Tackle : here are a couple good articles on this subject:

Fan Site: Riggo’s Rag
2 days ago

Article: “Redskin’s Miss Opportunity in Wake of Texan’s Laremy Tunsill Trade”

Another article: “Redskins 5 Biggest Cut Day Surprises In Washington”
....see surprise #2

The Texans, as far as anyone knows, made NO OFFER to the Redskins in a trade for Trent Williams. Still, just talking to the Texan’s night wouldn’t have cost us anything.


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The Texans just got a player in Tunsil who:
- is young (only 25 years old)
- is still on a rookie deal
- was touted as a top 5 pick
- has a ton of potential


There is no way in HELL they would trade for Trent. As someone said before, Redskins fans keep forgetting about Trent's age and injury issues.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The Texans just got a player in Tunsil who:

- is young (only 25 years old)

- is still on a rookie deal

- was touted as a top 5 pick

- has a ton of potential





There is no way in HELL they would trade for Trent. As someone said before, Redskins fans keep forgetting about Trent's age and injury issues.

Maybe. We’ll never know because Bruce told the Texan’s that Trent wasn’t going to be traded.

If Trent comes back in the next weeks, then Bruce Allen will look like a genius. If TW doesn’t come back this season then fans will be calling for BA’s head. The reports from the news yesterday was that Bruce really tried to talk Trent into coming back in the summer, even telling Trent that he would fire anyone on the Redskins medical staff that TW wanted the team to get rid of. This may explain why B. Allen is so sure that Trent will come back to play that. I guess we’ll find out in the next few weeks...


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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Warthog

Maybe. We’ll never know because Bruce told the Texan’s that Trent wasn’t going to be traded.

If Trent comes back in the next weeks, then Bruce Allen will look like a genius. If TW doesn’t come back this season then fans will be calling for BA’s head. The reports from the news yesterday was that Bruce really tried to talk Trent into coming back in the summer, even telling Trent that he would fire anyone on the Redskins medical staff that TW wanted the team to get rid of. This may explain why B. Allen is so sure that Trent will come back to play that. I guess we’ll find out in the next few weeks...


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Most fans are already calling for his head, so it's not really going to change that.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Most fans are already calling for his head, so it's not really going to change that.

Agreed. I’m one of them. Bruce Allen is just Dan Snyder’s “yes man” and his football decision-making and knowledge are poor. If the Redskin’s have another lousy season and/or if Trent Williams doesn’t come back the public pressure to fire Bruce will be huge. That’s BA’s job - to take the pressure off Snyder for the poor performance of this once-proud franchise. I hope Bruce is fired, I don’t see how we can do worse than him.

Then maybe someone can convince Dan Snyder to hire a GM who actually knows about pro football. Doubtful!


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[Warthog]

My prediction is that Gruden will be the sacrificial lamb for this year’s 7-9 or 6-10 season. He will be fired at the end of the season.

I would be extremely surprised if BA is fired after the 2019 season. Remember, his job is to do what Snyder wants AND to absorb fan / media / NFL criticism about the Redskins and keep it away from Snyder. I think he has another 1-2 years of usefulness in that regard for Snyder before the owner has to bring in a new lackey.


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[Burgold]

Bruce ain't going anywhere until he wants to,face it Snyder is so star struck he can't see anything.

[SolidSnake84]

I can't see how Bruce is in any danger. They could go 0-16 this year and i doubt very seriously Bruce would be fired.

As others have said; from people in the "know", to writers and just us casual fans, Bruce is here as long as he wants to be ,and we just have to live with it.

[irish]

There is zero chance the end is near for Bruce.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by irish

There is zero chance the end is near for Bruce.

Correct. The thread is kind of goofy altogether. Fans wish the end is near but thinking it is means you're incredibly out of touch with Snyder's thinking.

[Chico23231]

I don't know, I think if it goes south as in a 10 loss season and the Trent fiasco turns out bad it could be over.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by irish

There is zero chance the end is near for Bruce.

Idk about that. Dan could be getting pressure from the other owners to make a move. Bruce is bad for business. He's Snyder's shield but at some point if the losses, PR embarrassments and empty seats becomes too.much to deal with I could see Dan getting rid of him.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Correct. The thread is kind of goofy altogether. Fans wish the end is near but thinking it is means you're incredibly out of touch with Snyder's thinking.

Bruce is not getting fired, Dan loves him. The only prayer we have is if a team wants him to be their GM and that is laughable

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Bruce is not getting fired, Dan loves him. The only prayer we have is if a team wants him to be their GM and that is laughable

Although BA title is Team President, he is really the GM right now. Since BA directly reports to Dan Snyder, then that means Snyder also is involved heavily in the "GM" decisions. This owner interference issue is why we have trouble getting top HC talent here. The team also fired the last GM after just two seasons (ostensively for alcohol issues), so this may again deter the top GM talent if the team ever decided to hire a real one.