Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

[AnonEmouse]

I agree with the post elsewhere that Haskins should be given the starting role when we play the Jets. He'll still face several top defences in those weeks, but it gives him a chance to play when the results are all but immaterial. No pressure to win, per se, just go out and show he can learn week on week. Throwing him in the other week was, imho, Gruden trying to get himself fired and didn't do him any favours. If Callahan can improve the run game enough by then that it eases the pressure on Haskins, all to the good.

I don't necessarily agree that Guice is injury prone. I'd argue he didn; tget/seek the right medical attention in college and after, thus exposing his knee to the injury last year. If he'd got it treated and missed maybe even the whole season he'd likely have been stronger this year. The meniscus thing isn't a sign of being injury prone. Plenty of players have had similar issues and treatments and gone on to have successful careers. He may not have a long career, but if he can give us 4-5 years off good production from here on out, that's an ROI if you ask me. He may well form a nasty 1-2 punch with Love if they both come back fully healthy next year.

Having a good improving young QB and a solid backfield for the next 3-5 years would allow them to concentrate on OL, WR, LB and Db in the draft, particularly OL. As long as DS and BA don;t go daft in FA again...

[KI Skins Fan]

Nobody is holding Haskins back. He's simply not ready yet. I think he may become the starter before he is ready but that's the way it goes sometimes in the NFL.

I hope he grows up a little soon. His "like" of an online commentary highly critical of Jay Gruden was unwarranted, unprofessional and egotistical and it made me wonder about his maturity level. He needs to become a team leader when he gets his opportunity to start.

That said, I still like the pick of Haskins very much. He has great tools, presence, work ethic, and desire to win, IMHO. Some day soon he's going to be a very good NFL starter.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Lombardi claims to have talked to several redskins coaches and their assessment of Haskins paints him as a total bust. Completely uninterested, not not paying attention, not putting in any work, but acting entitled due to his relationship with Snyder and expecting to be enshrined as the starter based solely on his laurels.

If true, and we have a top pick last year, we need to use it on a QB and trade Haskins for whatever conditional 2040 pick we can get.


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[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Lombardi claims to have talked to several redskins coaches and their assessment of Haskins paints him as a total bust. Completely uninterested, not not paying attention, not putting in any work, but acting entitled due to his relationship with Snyder and expecting to be enshrined as the starter based solely on his laurels.

If true, and we have a top pick last year, we need to use it on a QB and trade Haskins for whatever conditional 2040 pick we can get.


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I agree. Get tua and fuck everyone else

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I agree. Get tua and fuck everyone else

Trevor Lawrence, would need to wait an extra year.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Lombardi claims to have talked to several redskins coaches and their assessment of Haskins paints him as a total bust. Completely uninterested, not not paying attention, not putting in any work, but acting entitled due to his relationship with Snyder and expecting to be enshrined as the starter based solely on his laurels.

If true, and we have a top pick last year, we need to use it on a QB and trade Haskins for whatever conditional 2040 pick we can get.


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If you know the coach isnt interested in your development after showing improvement in the preseason games that might lead to disinterest in the regular season. At this point they were reporting that all the qbs including Haskins were taking some first team reps. That should encourage him going forward.

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[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

If you know the coach isnt interested in your development after showing improvement in the preseason games that might lead to disinterest in the regular season. At this point they were reporting that all the qbs including Haskins were taking some first team reps. That should encourage him going forward.

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Sorry but that attitude speaks to a fundamental character flaw in Haskins part. Entitlement and Selfishness. Neither is a quality that i can think of any great QBs having. Haskins is a dud - griffin 2.0

Snyder made a mistake drafting him at 15 when the actual football people had second and 3rd round grades on him. No reason to compound that mistake by sticking with him.


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[sdskinsfan2001]

There are plenty of football people that thought he was a 1st round pick and that us getting him at 15 was good pick. We have enough actual problems without taking every negative report seriously. And most of our coaching staff should be fired. Unless O'Connell gets the HC job, none of them will be here next year. Unless we hire a defensive guy as HC and he keeps O'Connell. Either way, I don't imagine any coach besides O'Connell possibly coming back next year.

Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater in a year where the HC gets fired and what will possibly go down as the worst year in franchise history.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

There are plenty of football people that thought he was a 1st round pick and that us getting him at 15 was good pick. We have enough actual problems without taking every negative report seriously. And most of our coaching staff should be fired. Unless O'Connell gets the HC job, none of them will be here next year. Unless we hire a defensive guy as HC and he keeps O'Connell. Either way, I don't imagine any coach besides O'Connell possibly coming back next year.



Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater in a year where the HC gets fired and what will possibly go down as the worst year in franchise history.

Exactly.

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[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Lombardi claims to have talked to several redskins coaches and their assessment of Haskins paints him as a total bust. Completely uninterested, not not paying attention, not putting in any work, but acting entitled due to his relationship with Snyder and expecting to be enshrined as the starter based solely on his laurels.

If true, and we have a top pick last year, we need to use it on a QB and trade Haskins for whatever conditional 2040 pick we can get.


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Do you have a link. I googled Lombardi Dwayne Haskins and all I found were a few tweets from April.

[Warthog]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

Do you have a link. I googled Lombardi Dwayne Haskins and all I found were a few tweets from April.

Seriously? The guy has played just over 1/2 a game where he was thrust into a game with no preparation and you want to dump him? Haskins had no reps with the first team the entire preseason. He had no reps at all for any games before he was thrust into the game with the Bears. Then thrust into the middle of a game where he’d played NOT ONCE WITH HIS WR and had a good series of downs. Then 3 INT against an outstanding defense - on that basis you want to dump him?

In his rookie season, Peyton Manning, who actually was getting reps with the first team, also threw 3 INT. I guess you would have dumped him also?

Give the guy a chance. Prepare for a week with the first team. Coach him up. Dumb down the playbook. Start him from the beginning. THEN BEGIN THE EVALUATION PROCESS.

You don’t dump a first round draft pick based on 1/2 a game under the worst circumstances and the comments of a couple disgruntled coaches. I’ve seen written reports that he has been studying his azz off and staying late everyday in tape review.

You prep him with the first team and play him from the beginning of the game. Keep it simple. Then see what happens. This guy has an enormous upside. He deserves an evaluation for several SEASONS, with a proper coaching staff before you decide he’s the future or not.


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[sdskinsfan2001]

Haskins is going to be our QB for 10+ years. Maybe some of that shit is true but it could have been due to bad relationships with Jay. Not blaming Jay. Some relationships just aren't good. I'm excited to see Haskins take over at some point this year.

[Warthog]

When you draft a premiere QB in the first round you are committing the franchise to work with him for 2-4 years . Coach him up, build around him, and give him the real chance to win over that period!

I’m discounting any Redskins coaching reports on Haskins. We have one of the worst teams in the NFL -largely due to piss poor coaching. ALL of the coaches will be gone next year with a new HC and his new staff and the old coaches know it. So it’s not above some outgoing coaches to anonymously trash talk the Redskin’s top two draft picks as a final “f-u” to Bruce Allen and Snyder. Slight possibly to be true but probably not!! Haskins will improve and could be the first real chance to be our franchise QB in over 30 years!!

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[CRedskinsRule]

Anybody notice Daniel Jones' 3int game yesterday?

Rookie QBs are going to take some lumps.

At 0-5, and with Callahan re-emphasizing the run, surely Haskins knows how to take a snap and hand the ball off...

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[MTK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Anybody notice Daniel Jones' 3int game yesterday?

Rookie QBs are going to take some lumps.

At 0-5, and with Callahan re-emphasizing the run, surely Haskins knows how to take a snap and hand the ball off...

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Makes you wonder why the national media isn't jumping all over the Giants for tossing poor Danny to the wolves