Trent Williams holding out for new deal

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

You know what they say, the best ability is availability. I'm not sure that statement completely applies when you're talking about a player of his caliber, and what he brings to the field when he is available, but he's missed something like 13 or 14 games in the last 3 years. Couple that with the fact that hes 31, I do think they have to be careful about how much they pay him, if they do give him a new contract. It does suck though, because where does that leave us if they can't get it done, with Erick Flowers? He has some leverage here, just hope it doesn't put the team in a bind... I suppose it could cause them to rethink the idea of releasing Norman...

This is the best argument I've ever seen in favor of paying Trent lol.

Aside from that, he's a team leader, he's always worked hard, and played through injury, and is amongst the best at his position. It's easy to see pay the man, but I'd give him a new contract with an out clause after 3 or so years because we know we're not getting 16 games a year out of him anymore.

[Ruhskins]

I personally don't mind if the team pays Trent, I just wish this was happening next year. Perhaps his health scare has changed something in him, which is understandable. It is just that I'm sure the team wasn't counting on this and now they have to pay him and Schreff.

For people who are on the "pay him" camp, are you willing to lose Schreff in order to pay TW?

Perhaps it may be possible to pay them both, but we don't know how much money Schreff is demanding. Or perhaps they can pay both but leave nothing left for an emergency signing.

I'm sure the triumvirate of idiocy (Paulsen, Russell, and Sheehan) are going to have a field day bitching the team about this. I just think it sucks and it is almost bad luck that this is happening to them.

[Chico23231]

No way I’m paying TW over keeping schreff...younger and hasn’t hit prime. TW has 2 years left...i don’t see him missing game checks, maybe offer to see where he is after this year when we have more cap flexibility.

[MTK]

If they can make the numbers work I'm all for paying him. He's a top LT. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron. But if there's a legit trade offer you'd have to consider it.

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by MTK

If they can make the numbers work I'm all for paying him. He's a top LT. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron. But if there's a legit trade offer you'd have to consider it.

Fuck him! I wouldn't pay him shit and it's mainly because how he went about this whole thing. Why didn't he start talking about his contract at the end of last season? Why didn't he bring it up a month ago? What about a week ago? He's not a top LT. Don't insult my intelligence because I'm calling it how it is. This dude is no longer and elite talent. I say trade him away. Anyone thinks this dude is anything but average is blind.

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would put out trade offers and see what we can get for him. We need to start doing business like the Patriots. He has two years left on his deal, he's 30 and never healthy. I'm fine w/moving on from him a year early over a year too late. It sucks but it's business.

I couldn't agree with you more. We need to get rid of this bum right now!

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by httr198020

Fuck him! I wouldn't pay him shit and it's mainly because how he went about this whole thing. Why didn't he start talking about his contract at the end of last season? Why didn't he bring it up a month ago? What about a week ago? He's not a top LT. Don't insult my intelligence because I'm calling it how it is. This dude is no longer and elite talent. I say trade him away. Anyone thinks this dude is anything but average is blind.



I couldn't agree with you more. We need to get rid of this bum right now!

Please stop

[httr198020]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Please stop

Stop telling the truth? I'm sorry, but I can't do that. Let me ask a few questions. What does TW do so great? Do we run the ball better when he's out there? No! Do we pass protect better when he's in there? Hell no! I say let him go RIGHT NOW!

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by httr198020

Stop telling the truth? I'm sorry, but I can't do that. Let me ask a few questions. What does TW do so great? Do we run the ball better when he's out there? No! Do we pass protect better when he's in there? Hell no! I say let him go RIGHT NOW!

Both of those are false lol Stop trolling man

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by httr198020

Stop telling the truth? I'm sorry, but I can't do that. Let me ask a few questions. What does TW do so great? Do we run the ball better when he's out there? No! Do we pass protect better when he's in there? Hell no! I say let him go RIGHT NOW!

Trent is still a damn good player. You simply can not deny that.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by httr198020

Fuck him! I wouldn't pay him shit and it's mainly because how he went about this whole thing. Why didn't he start talking about his contract at the end of last season? Why didn't he bring it up a month ago? What about a week ago? He's not a top LT. Don't insult my intelligence because I'm calling it how it is. This dude is no longer and elite talent. I say trade him away. Anyone thinks this dude is anything but average is blind.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by MTK

If they can make the numbers work I'm all for paying him. He's a top LT. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron. But if there's a legit trade offer you'd have to consider it.

What would you consider a legit offer? I would hate to see him go, but like you said the numbers have to be right, or the offer has to be right.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by MTK

If they can make the numbers work I'm all for paying him. He's a top LT. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron. But if there's a legit trade offer you'd have to consider it.

OK, I finally voted "pay him", primarily because I wanted to be able to view the poll numbers. Very interesting. There were more "trade him" responses than I expected.

I pretty much agree with the bolded part above as long as it does not involve an extension of his current contract. His durability has waned in recent years and I'd hate to see the Skins carry significant salary cap dollars in future years for a player who is unable to perform.

I admit that I don't know how that can be done within the rules of the salary cap. Perhaps a bonus spread over the final two years of his contract. You know, for "exemplary career service" or something? I dunno. There must be some type of work-around.

[skinsfan69]

I would put out trade offers and see what we can get for him. We need to start doing business like the Patriots. He has two years left on his deal, he's 30 and never healthy. I'm fine w/moving on from him a year early over a year too late. It sucks but it's business.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would put out trade offers and see what we can get for him. We need to start doing business like the Patriots. He has two years left on his deal, he's 30 and never healthy. I'm fine w/moving on from him a year early over a year too late. It sucks but it's business.

You aren't going to get back to you what he's worth to your team currently. Nobody is giving up much for an oft injured LT, who's 30 years of age. You'd be lucky as hell to get a 3rd rounder for him at this point.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

You aren't going to get back to you what he's worth to your team currently. Nobody is giving up much for an oft injured LT, who's 30 years of age. You'd be lucky as hell to get a 3rd rounder for him at this point.

True.