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Old 09-18-2019, 09:58 AM   #121
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...uxD?li=BBnb7Kz

With all the injuries Kaepernick's agent is calling teams and of course left wing media outlets are ripping into them for not signing him. They all seem to ignore the fact he was exposed as a one hit wonder by defenses long before he started kneeling. He also had a lot of other issues besides the kneeling. He has been out of the league for 2 years+. Jimmy Garapolo took the team Kap was 1-10 with and finished up the next year 5-0. What does that tell you? The guy isn't very good. He is in the Sanchez and JJ class, but the USA Today's of the world build him up.
Not to mention that he sued the NFL and accepted a settlement. Honestly, if anyone sues their employer, don;t you think there is a parting of the ways?
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Old 09-18-2019, 11:53 AM   #122
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With all the injuries Kaepernick's agent is calling teams and of course left wing media outlets are ripping into them for not signing him. They all seem to ignore the fact he was exposed as a one hit wonder by defenses long before he started kneeling. He also had a lot of other issues besides the kneeling. He has been out of the league for 2 years+. Jimmy Garapolo took the team Kap was 1-10 with and finished up the next year 5-0. What does that tell you? The guy isn't very good. He is in the Sanchez and JJ class, but the USA Today's of the world build him up.
You're showing your bias by trying to rewrite history or just misinformed by your favorite news source.

Kap excelled under Harbaugh and won more playoff games and had more superbowl appearances than any Redskins QB since Rypien(28 years! how sad is that!).
Harbaugh and SF had a nasty divorce and Tomsula took over. Tomsula was way over his head and the whole team failed not just their QB who missed half the season with a shoulder injury.

The same pretty much goes for Chip Kelly the following year.

Blaine Gabbert took over for Kap not JimmyG and Gabbert also failed under Chip Kelly. everyone failed under Chip Kelly.

JimmyG came in under Kyle Shanahan, Kap was long gone.

If you don't think Run First QBs work long term, that's a valid football argument with that kid in Baltimore disagreeing with you.



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Old 09-18-2019, 12:06 PM   #123
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I wouldnt mind Haskins getting in this year,but I would like to have him sit for a while.Cleveland ruined many a qbs sticking them in there right away,Texans did it with Carr,theres always exceptions but skins are cursed
If you take a look at the Browns QBs (Weeden, Manziel, Quinn, etc.) They all had major issues coming out of college and pretty much sucked. Manziel had other issues obviously, Quinn was just over his head.

David Carr on the other hand was sacked I believe 78 and 82 times his first two seasons under an expansion franchise with no LT because Tony Boselli retired. No QB can succeed getting sacked that much.

I am of the mindset either you have it or you don't. Sitting in this NFL isn't as beneficial as it once was in my opinion. Get him out there and see what he can do, best job training is on the job training.
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:20 PM   #124
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You're showing your bias by trying to rewrite history or just misinformed by your favorite news source.

Kap excelled under Harbaugh and won more playoff games and had more superbowl appearances than any Redskins QB since Rypien(28 years! how sad is that!).
Harbaugh and SF had a nasty divorce and Tomsula took over. Tomsula was way over his head and the whole team failed not just their QB who missed half the season with a shoulder injury.

The same pretty much goes for Chip Kelly the following year.

Blaine Gabbert took over for Kap not JimmyG and Gabbert also failed under Chip Kelly. everyone failed under Chip Kelly.

JimmyG came in under Kyle Shanahan, Kap was long gone.

If you don't think Run First QBs work long term, that's a valid football argument with that kid in Baltimore disagreeing with you.



Edited: Weird spacing...
I saw every 49er game he ever played. It isn't 2012 anymore. He was a one read QB with happy feet that fled the pocket even when the rush wasn't near him. He also stared down receivers and had inaccurate ball placement due to poor techniques. Harbaugh was able to mask his weaknesses for about a seasons world of games till the league figured him out. Defenses would put spies on him and he was unable to find the void in the defense the guy following his every move left.

Everybody knows the better you are the more baggage of yours the NFL will tolerate, he isn't good enough to tolerate a shirt pocket full of baggage and he comes with a whole trash truck full of it. What about the pig socks and the Castro T-shirt to mention a couple? It was also known he wasn't keen on working on his weaknesses and liked working on his speed and strength. He was also aloof and didn't interact much with teammates.

Funny how you call me biased, when you are making excuses for this piece of trash of an NFL QB and a teammate.
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Old 09-18-2019, 12:30 PM   #125
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Blaine Gabbert took over for Kap not JimmyG and Gabbert also failed under Chip Kelly. everyone failed under Chip Kelly.

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Try re-reading what I said, where did I say Jimmy G took over for Kap?

I said "next year" Jimmy G finished the season 5-0. Kap was benched for Gabbert, how pathetic is that? That is when he did his protest, when he was riding the pine.

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Old 09-19-2019, 03:25 PM   #126
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http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff/2019

Super small sample size, but check out Gregg Williams and Todd Bowles defensive units compared with their respective offenses.

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Old 09-21-2019, 09:49 AM   #127
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Favre was a unique circumstance, he also led the league in a whole bunch of career categories when he retired. Eli doesn't have that.
He is in the top ten of many of those categoies you mentions and there is this....................


David Diehl
@davediehl66

Eli has as many postseason wins 8 as Steve Young. His 106 completions in the 2011 postseason are the MOST @nfl
history. Has 5 game winning drives in his postseason career, as many as Montana had & one more than Bradshaw. Eliís 4- 4th quarter playoff comebacks are as many Elway had


and there is this.............

2x SB MVP
2x SB Champ

6th all time in completions
7th all time in pass yds
8th all time in pass tds
3k yds in 15 consecutive seasons, and 7 of those were over 4k yds

ONLY QB to win at Lambeau 2x in the post season
ONLY QB to beat an undefeated team in the SB
ONLY QB to beat Brady and the pats 2x in the SB

Giants ALL TIME leader passing YDS, TDS, and Completions

NFC EAST ALL TIME Leader in passing YDS TDS, and Completions

Most passing yards in a single post season

If you ask me his resume looks pretty good
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