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View Poll Results: Who gets your game ball for the Redskins 20-13 win over the Giants?
Peterson 17 38.64%
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:10 AM   #181
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As far as Alex Smith I think the most important stat is the fact the Redskins have had more points than the other team 5 times and less points than the other team only two times so far this year. I will take 200 yards passing and a win over 350 yards passing and a loss any time.


Thatís because of our defense and running game. Alex Smith has little to do with our record. If we want to be a contender our QB is gonna have to play at a high level at some point and air it out to win gun fights. We saw what happened the last two times we got into a shoot out (Saints and Colts). Smith couldnít keep up. Our offense is one dimensional, and eventually it will be a problem.


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Old 10-30-2018, 09:23 AM   #182
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Smith not turning it over is definitely a big factor in winning, letís not overlook that. With little margin for error itís huge.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:25 AM   #183
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Thatís because of our defense and running game. Alex Smith has little to do with our record. If we want to be a contender our QB is gonna have to play at a high level at some point and air it out to win gun fights. We saw what happened the last two times we got into a shoot out (Saints and Colts). Smith couldnít keep up. Our offense is one dimensional, and eventually it will be a problem.


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Not turning the ball over actually impacts our record. I think some the of the recent game planning has been to limit passing attack based on opponent. While the tape clearly says Alex has missed some easy and clutch throw as well as downfield opportunities...I still think there is room for improvement with Alex and Jay.

But like you said, one dimensional offense absolutely will not cut it, we need balance to win. Now that the team has confidence and is coming together with an identity....ill keep an open mind that this will get better.

BUT, keep AP fresh is crucial to this second half planning, Id like to see Alex shoulder the load just from that perspective...Maybe get Bibbs more work as well.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:27 AM   #184
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Thatís because of our defense and running game. Alex Smith has little to do with our record. If we want to be a contender our QB is gonna have to play at a high level at some point and air it out to win gun fights. We saw what happened the last two times we got into a shoot out (Saints and Colts). Smith couldnít keep up. Our offense is one dimensional, and eventually it will be a problem.


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We have the 2nd best time of possesion, because our offense, AP and AS mainly, don't turn the ball over. That has a LOT to do with our record.

I think we all agree that the offense needs a bit more oomph to it, but it's also fair to say that we haven't had our full/best offensive unit out there yet. Maybe we won't this year. And it's silly to knock the quarterback of a 5-2 team, especially when - it's his first year in the offense, he has a history of winning, he has had limited practice with the best offensive weapons due to their injuries, and he has held every lead the offense has had.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:39 AM   #185
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Smith not turning it over is definitely a big factor in winning, letís not overlook that. With little margin for error itís huge.
He also does not take any points for granted. He flat out hustled to prevent a TD on the Peterson fumble. Not many QBs would do that. It is quite possible the Skins loses that game if he doesn't.
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Old 10-30-2018, 09:42 AM   #186
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5-2

Are we reliant on the running game and defense? Yup. 5-2
Will the passing game be a problem if we start getting into shoot-outs? Yup. 5-2
Could the passing game improve over the next nine games? Yup. 5-2

Right now, we are on a three game win streak based off of a freakishly good D-Line that has a solid rotation and depth w/ two terrific run-stoppers behind them. We are running the ball well behind a line of two potential all-pros and solid work from the rest of the line. We are winning the turnover battle with a QB who, as a rule throughout his career, seems to avoid stupid interceptions and protects the ball. We a RB with old legs but generational talent. 5-2

There is nothing gimmicky about this approach. It is not a "Once other teams figure us out, this formula will no longer work." Rather, it is an age old formula, win the trenches, run the ball, stop the run, and protect the ball. It will never be pretty. In the new NFFL (National Flag Football League), it won't make the highlight reels. It will just win games. 5-2

In the latest ESPN power rankings, we are 13th. The Carolina Panthers (who we beat) are 6th. The Green Bay Packers (who we beat) are 11th. Philadelphia (at 4-4 and whom we lead by two games in the division) are 9th. Apparently, LOTS of people do not think this formula works in the current NFL. 5-2

Atlanta is a huge game. Win at home against a potent offense. If we do win, it will likely come down to the last 2:00 with our D trying to hold off one more score. Even if we do win, however, it will likely be written off as a fluke unless we put up gaudy statistics.

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Old 10-30-2018, 09:56 AM   #187
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[QUOTE=5superbowls3wins;1205027]Thatís because of our defense and running game. Alex Smith has little to do with our record. If we want to be a contender our QB is gonna have to play at a high level at some point and air it out to win gun fights. We saw what happened the last two times we got into a shoot out (Saints and Colts). Smith couldnít keep up. Our offense is one dimensional, and eventually it will be a problem.


I strongly disagree... Smith is a game manager...and he is contributing to the team's wins this season...he's not passing for a lot of yards a game but he doesn't have to....that's the beauty of ball control rushing and having a very good defense....this was the same formula for winning ball games in the early mid 1980s with Joe Theismann and that superb defense we had back then when Riggins was bull dozing over defenses....in those two games the Redskins were bested by the Colts and Saints it was the defense who had no answers in both of those games...and that wasn't on Alex Smith.
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Thatís because of our defense and running game. Alex Smith has little to do with our record. If we want to be a contender our QB is gonna have to play at a high level at some point and air it out to win gun fights. We saw what happened the last two times we got into a shoot out (Saints and Colts). Smith couldnít keep up. Our offense is one dimensional, and eventually it will be a problem.


I strongly disagree... Smith is a game manager...and he is contributing to the team's wins this season...he's not passing for a lot of yards a game but he doesn't have to....that's the beauty of ball control rushing and having a very good defense....this was the same formula for winning ball games in the early mid 1980s with Joe Theismann and that superb defense we had back then when Riggins was bull dozing over defenses....in those two games the Redskins were bested by the Colts and Saints it was the defense who had no answers in both of those games...and that wasn't on Alex Smith.
I will disagree with this. The defense let up the first drive TD but settled down. Indy stopped the run and forced AS to beat them and it worked.

In the NO game no doubt about it the pass defense was exposed by what some would say is very good first ballot HOF QB. Despite that the Skins offense would drive down the field but have to settle for field goals. In the first quarter they were swapping TDs for FGs and you cannot win that way.
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5-2

Are we reliant on the running game and defense? Yup. 5-2
Will the passing game be a problem if we start getting into shoot-outs? Yup. 5-2
Could the passing game improve over the next nine games? Yup. 5-2

Right now, we are on a three game win streak based off of a freakishly good D-Line that has a solid rotation and depth w/ two terrific run-stoppers behind them. We are running the ball well behind a line of two potential all-pros and solid work from the rest of the line. We are winning the turnover battle with a QB who, as a rule throughout his career, seems to avoid stupid interceptions and protects the ball. We a RB with old legs but generational talent. 5-2

There is nothing gimmicky about this approach. It is not a "Once other teams figure us out, this formula will no longer work." Rather, it is an age old formula, win the trenches, run the ball, stop the run, and protect the ball. It will never be pretty. In the new NFFL (National Flag Football League), it won't make the highlight reels. It will just win games. 5-2

In the latest ESPN power rankings, we are 13th. The Carolina Panthers (who we beat) are 6th. The Green Bay Packers (who we beat) are 11th. Philadelphia (at 4-4 and whom we lead by two games in the division) are 9th. Apparently, LOTS of people do not think this formula works in the current NFL. 5-2

Atlanta is a huge game. Win at home against a potent offense. If we do win, it will likely come down to the last 2:00 with our D trying to hold off one more score. Even if we do win, however, it will likely be written off as a fluke unless we put up gaudy statistics.

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Were you trying to make a point by repeating 5-2, or just getting old?
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5-2

Are we reliant on the running game and defense? Yup. 5-2
Will the passing game be a problem if we start getting into shoot-outs? Yup. 5-2
Could the passing game improve over the next nine games? Yup. 5-2

Right now, we are on a three game win streak based off of a freakishly good D-Line that has a solid rotation and depth w/ two terrific run-stoppers behind them. We are running the ball well behind a line of two potential all-pros and solid work from the rest of the line. We are winning the turnover battle with a QB who, as a rule throughout his career, seems to avoid stupid interceptions and protects the ball. We a RB with old legs but generational talent. 5-2

There is nothing gimmicky about this approach. It is not a "Once other teams figure us out, this formula will no longer work." Rather, it is an age old formula, win the trenches, run the ball, stop the run, and protect the ball. It will never be pretty. In the new NFFL (National Flag Football League), it won't make the highlight reels. It will just win games. 5-2

In the latest ESPN power rankings, we are 13th. The Carolina Panthers (who we beat) are 6th. The Green Bay Packers (who we beat) are 11th. Philadelphia (at 4-4 and whom we lead by two games in the division) are 9th. Apparently, LOTS of people do not think this formula works in the current NFL. 5-2

Atlanta is a huge game. Win at home against a potent offense. If we do win, it will likely come down to the last 2:00 with our D trying to hold off one more score. Even if we do win, however, it will likely be written off as a fluke unless we put up gaudy statistics.

6-2.

To quote Mike Tomlin a few years back "I dont give a damn about stats, I give a damn about winning"

I think we got used to seeing a high scoring Offense with Kirk running the show , big throws down field Etc... But we didn't win much. As for the ranking that is just the national media showing its bias colors to the "stars" Cam Newton, Wentz etc.
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Were you trying to make a point by repeating 5-2, or just getting old?
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I completely agree. Our record is more important than anything, BUT when we need Smith to shoulder the load or win a shoot out down the stretch, or win a shootout in the playoffs EVERYONE will be crying about how they wish they had a guy who could ball out and send the ball down field


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5-2

Are we reliant on the running game and defense? Yup. 5-2
Will the passing game be a problem if we start getting into shoot-outs? Yup. 5-2
Could the passing game improve over the next nine games? Yup. 5-2

Right now, we are on a three game win streak based off of a freakishly good D-Line that has a solid rotation and depth w/ two terrific run-stoppers behind them. We are running the ball well behind a line of two potential all-pros and solid work from the rest of the line. We are winning the turnover battle with a QB who, as a rule throughout his career, seems to avoid stupid interceptions and protects the ball. We a RB with old legs but generational talent. 5-2

There is nothing gimmicky about this approach. It is not a "Once other teams figure us out, this formula will no longer work." Rather, it is an age old formula, win the trenches, run the ball, stop the run, and protect the ball. It will never be pretty. In the new NFFL (National Flag Football League), it won't make the highlight reels. It will just win games. 5-2

In the latest ESPN power rankings, we are 13th. The Carolina Panthers (who we beat) are 6th. The Green Bay Packers (who we beat) are 11th. Philadelphia (at 4-4 and whom we lead by two games in the division) are 9th. Apparently, LOTS of people do not think this formula works in the current NFL. 5-2

Atlanta is a huge game. Win at home against a potent offense. If we do win, it will likely come down to the last 2:00 with our D trying to hold off one more score. Even if we do win, however, it will likely be written off as a fluke unless we put up gaudy statistics.

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5-2

Are we reliant on the running game and defense? Yup. 5-2
Will the passing game be a problem if we start getting into shoot-outs? Yup. 5-2
Could the passing game improve over the next nine games? Yup. 5-2

Right now, we are on a three game win streak based off of a freakishly good D-Line that has a solid rotation and depth w/ two terrific run-stoppers behind them. We are running the ball well behind a line of two potential all-pros and solid work from the rest of the line. We are winning the turnover battle with a QB who, as a rule throughout his career, seems to avoid stupid interceptions and protects the ball. We a RB with old legs but generational talent. 5-2

There is nothing gimmicky about this approach. It is not a "Once other teams figure us out, this formula will no longer work." Rather, it is an age old formula, win the trenches, run the ball, stop the run, and protect the ball. It will never be pretty. In the new NFFL (National Flag Football League), it won't make the highlight reels. It will just win games. 5-2

In the latest ESPN power rankings, we are 13th. The Carolina Panthers (who we beat) are 6th. The Green Bay Packers (who we beat) are 11th. Philadelphia (at 4-4 and whom we lead by two games in the division) are 9th. Apparently, LOTS of people do not think this formula works in the current NFL. 5-2

Atlanta is a huge game. Win at home against a potent offense. If we do win, it will likely come down to the last 2:00 with our D trying to hold off one more score. Even if we do win, however, it will likely be written off as a fluke unless we put up gaudy statistics.

6-2.
I predicted a 7 win season so I can't argue with 5-2.
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5-2

Are we reliant on the running game and defense? Yup. 5-2
Will the passing game be a problem if we start getting into shoot-outs? Yup. 5-2
Could the passing game improve over the next nine games? Yup. 5-2

Right now, we are on a three game win streak based off of a freakishly good D-Line that has a solid rotation and depth w/ two terrific run-stoppers behind them. We are running the ball well behind a line of two potential all-pros and solid work from the rest of the line. We are winning the turnover battle with a QB who, as a rule throughout his career, seems to avoid stupid interceptions and protects the ball. We a RB with old legs but generational talent. 5-2

There is nothing gimmicky about this approach. It is not a "Once other teams figure us out, this formula will no longer work." Rather, it is an age old formula, win the trenches, run the ball, stop the run, and protect the ball. It will never be pretty. In the new NFFL (National Flag Football League), it won't make the highlight reels. It will just win games. 5-2

In the latest ESPN power rankings, we are 13th. The Carolina Panthers (who we beat) are 6th. The Green Bay Packers (who we beat) are 11th. Philadelphia (at 4-4 and whom we lead by two games in the division) are 9th. Apparently, LOTS of people do not think this formula works in the current NFL. 5-2

Atlanta is a huge game. Win at home against a potent offense. If we do win, it will likely come down to the last 2:00 with our D trying to hold off one more score. Even if we do win, however, it will likely be written off as a fluke unless we put up gaudy statistics.

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