Breaking: Montae Nicholson left woman at hospital before she died from drug overdose

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Heroin? Are we sure it was black tar heroin? That seems like heavy heavy stuff. That just doesnt seem to fit the profile of a 21 year old girl working at planet fitness.

Tom Brady should be the model for every single person who wants to play in the NFL imo. You have a 3-10 year window to maximize your payday before you go back to being mortal like the rest of us. You can party when your 36 .. easier said now that im older than living in the moment but still.

This is speculation based off her dad finding a black substance wrapped in tinfoil in her room. That's the logical assumption. Obviously she was an addict for something.

The Tom Brady bit sounds great as an idea but for whatever reason there is a disconnect between guys trying to emulate his lifestyle.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Heroin? Are we sure it was black tar heroin? That seems like heavy heavy stuff. That just doesnt seem to fit the profile of a 21 year old girl working at planet fitness.

Tom Brady should be the model for every single person who wants to play in the NFL imo. You have a 3-10 year window to maximize your payday before you go back to being mortal like the rest of us. You can party when your 36 .. easier said now that im older than living in the moment but still.

Most people are ignorant about the whole drug culture and lifestyle, and tend to go by what they see on TV as far as how junkies "look". The truth is, they can be any of us. Doctors, Teachers, Mothers, etc. Addiction doesn't discriminate.

I didn't even realize that addiction was living in my own parents' house. My sister was a hard drug user all through high school. And i had no idea, none of us did, until the night her and her boyfriend's apartment was raided by the police a few years after graduation. She held down a job at a call center, always seemed fine when she would come and visit at holidays. So when we heard of the arrests, we were shocked.

The only other thing that could have possibly happened in the death of this young woman, that i haven't seen anyone talk about, is that perhaps at the party at Montae's house, she was encouraged into doing heroin and had never done it before. Maybe she didn't know what she was doing and had someone else inject her, maybe they gave her too much, who knows.

But the bottom line is, if we are serious about changing the culture here, and i don't think we are as long as Bruce is still here, if we are serious one day about changing the culture, then guys like Montae should have no place here.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I think 75% of Tom Brady's lifestyle would be fine and dandy, from what I read or heard about his habits he seems over the top. I don't think the guy has had a slice of pizza or a cheeseburger in ages.

I agree, he probably eats like one slice of cheese pizza a year. But if there's anybody any NFL player wants to emulate about how to defy age, it's Brady. Before he came along the best thing 42yo NFL qb's were known for was making an occasional quality start. Brady is still playing at a high level which is insane.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I think 75% of Tom Brady's lifestyle would be fine and dandy, from what I read or heard about his habits he seems over the top. I don't think the guy has had a slice of pizza or a cheeseburger in ages.

He’s got Giselle in his diet, I would too

[metalskins]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Brady is now the 3rd oldest NFL QB to start a game. He just passed Doug Flutie by a couple months. Both Steve Deberg and Warren Moon had one start each at 44. Moon started 10 games at a 42 year old, only threw 3 passes the next year. DeBerg came out of a 4 year retirement.

I remember thinking DeBerg was always an old man! Dependable, but he always seemed so much older than everybody else playing!

[mooby]

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/20/us/ap...son/index.html

Well this story is about to get more complicated.

I'm sure plenty of you will be quick to rush to judgement and condemn Montae for having drugs in his house, but I'll wait until we have the complete story before we crucify Montae for dating an addict.

And I don't care if the weed is Montae's because it's common knowledge NFL players prefer weed to pills. The article also doesn't mention where the foil with residue was found either, unless he fails a drug test I would probably guess and say that was hers.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/20/us/ap...son/index.html

Well this story is about to get more complicated.

I'm sure plenty of you will be quick to rush to judgement and condemn Montae for having drugs in his house, but I'll wait until we have the complete story before we crucify Montae for dating an addict.

And I don't care if the weed is Montae's because it's common knowledge NFL players prefer weed to pills. The article also doesn't mention where the foil with residue was found either, unless he fails a drug test I would probably guess and say that was hers.

yeah man...poor Monte. All this shit happening to him is out of his control.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

What part of this is complicated? I hope you're not shocked. Birds of a feather flock together, pretty sure Montae's crew doesn't come over for milk and cookies to study the Bible. Pretty sure most people into clean living don't date heroin addicts.

Who's to say he even knew? Unless she had visible track marks everywhere and other obvious signs he might not have even known.

And Chico, Montae (spell his gd name right please) is not the victim in this. But he's not the problem either.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

You can't be serious. So far what is known to us is he was beating the hell out of a dude who wasn't fighting back, he could have killed or permanently disabled the guy. I don't care what happened before, even if it is self defense, once you neutralize the threat you stop the onslaught. Then a women dies in his house from a drug overdose. I suppose you figure Montae was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Seriously, you think someone can hide being a junkie from someone they spend a lot of time with? Back in the day I worked at a company that had a few practicing junkies, you could spot them a mile away.

Why do you keep bringing up getting into the fight? All we know is he beat up another guy. We don't know what started it. Was it warranted at all? No, it clearly wasn't. Even if he was defending himself you have to know when to stop. But that's all you got. And now the girl he was dating died after OD'ing. He wasn't her supplier, and possibly might not have even known she was doing anything other than popular party drugs (which can be a gateway to drugs like heroin).

Btw, do you think her parents knew about her addiction? I guarantee you, you know an addict. Just because the signs aren't obvious doesn't mean it's not happening. Living in this country right now, it's an epidemic for a reason. It effects everybody from all walks of life. Poor, rich, young, old. Doesn't matter. The stigma that comes from being an addict, being treated like a criminal vs. someone with a health issue, and it's hard to believe this girl could hide her addiction successfully.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by mooby

Who's to say he even knew? Unless she had visible track marks everywhere and other obvious signs he might not have even known.

And Chico, Montae (spell his gd name right please) is not the victim in this. But he's not the problem either.

Lol...”well, now I understand why she be so sleepy all the time”

Monty is a mental midget if he couldn’t tell a girl who he dated for 6 months was using dope. And yes he is a problem if illegal drugs found at his place. What a fuckin retard, you drop off your dying chick and then don’t go thru and clean out your house? What was he waiting for?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Lol...”well, now I understand why she be so sleepy all the time”

Monty is a mental midget if he couldn’t tell a girl who he dated for 6 months was using dope. And yes he is a problem if illegal drugs found at his place. What a fuckin retard, you drop off your dying chick and then don’t go thru and clean out your house? What was he waiting for?

Her mom says they weren't dating, so probably FWB.

Also I'm surprised you say he's the problem since you are our resident toker.

One way or another he loses. Media says he's been cooperating with the investigation, now it's a red flag from you that he immediately didn't go home and clean out his house?

If he was guilty of anything, he'd be the first one disposing of any evidence. But cooperating with the 5-0 to clear his name, now that's to be frowned upon? LOL he can't win with you guys.

And for the 15th time, I'm fine cutting him because we can do better than him at safety. Obviously he's not the smartest guy (shoutout Buffalo Bob, if you could remind me what that previous incident was where he attempted to murder a guy yet for some reason didn't end up in prison for it), and he's not the best football player. But crucifying him because the girl he was fucking was an addict is par for the course for this forum.

[skinsfan69]

Give Apke a shot. He was giving up some plays but was also making some. He wasn't any worse than Montae.

[rocnrik]

He looked like he did not want to tackle in the game Sunday... this team has so many issues this is just another .. what a frickin soap opera of a poor ass excuse for what is supposed to be a proud franchise ...outside of a small handful of players they could waive most of this team and do no worse.. but I keep reminding myself ..”the culture is good”

[KI Skins Fan]

Why didn't Nicholson dial 9-1-1 immediately? Putting saving her life above all else was the only moral thing to do.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Why didn't Nicholson dial 9-1-1 immediately? Putting saving her life above all else was the only moral thing to do.

My first guess is that he had some shady AF people at his house when this happened, and also there was probably many drugs in there not only the ones that killed the woman. He probably considered it immediately like anyone would, but then either realized the risk he was taking or had someone tell him that along with EMS folks there would likely be police, etc, so he decided to just take her to the hospital himself.