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Old 06-05-2019, 08:55 AM   #61
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal

Trent Williams is the best Redskin over the last decade and it's not even close. He is a franchise staple and a top LT in football still today. Andrew Whitworth is 37 and is still a very good starter. Letting Trent go with roughly 4 years of very good level of play at a position so crucial is not a wise decision. When he is out of the game, it is clear as day seeing his impact.
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Old 06-05-2019, 08:55 AM   #62
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Completely false.
Then explain. What happens if Trent wants more guaranteed money upfront, same with Scherff. How is the team gain more cap space? Iím no cap expert and was assuming since you have to pay 2 players a lot money and have barely any cap space.
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:00 AM   #63
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A new deal for Scherff will lower his cap # this year significantly. He's currently on the books for $12.5, that could easily be cut that in half for this year.
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Let me make something crystal clear for you and the rest of people here. I'm not about to get up in arms about some overrated, overpaid loser like Trent Williams. You can kiss his ass all you want. I'm not going to do it. I've seen this bum jump off sides, get holding calls calls in critical times, get abused mediocre pass rushers, and he's always injured. If he doesn't want to be here then we should let him go. It's bad enough he's nowhere near as good as he gets credit for. But for him to wait till the day of mandatory mini camp show me that he doesn't care about this team or the fans. I say trade this bum right now and lets go full rebuild mode.


You are correct about this being disheartening and his injuries. However you are wrong in an absolutely mind numbing way about his play. Dont let your emotions control your posts it makes you look ...well....ignorant as all hell.
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A new deal for Scherff will lower his cap # this year significantly. He's currently on the books for $12.5, that could easily be cut that in half for this year.
This article mentions what you just said (towards the end of article). Like i said Iím no cap expert and was assuming.

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...trent-williams
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Old 06-05-2019, 09:42 AM   #66
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal

Just tossing out a general question, does anyone feel good about breaking in a rookie QB with anyone other than Trent protecting his blind side?
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I've seen this bum get abused by Giants LB Vernon everytime we play them. TW is average.


Either you are trolling your own teams fan base or he banged your girlfriend.
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal

He's missed 9 games over the last 2 years.. That isn't terrible
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He's missed 9 games over the last 2 years.. That isn't terrible
Missing 9/32 games - 28% - is significant. Even in his current contract, of which he has 2 years remaining, he's still in the top 5 at his position. Hes getting top 5 money when he's only available 72% of the time. If he is getting paid any more than 72% of what the top LT is already making, then he's already overpaid.

Yet he's asking for even more money? No thanks. If he can make it through 2019 without getting hurt, then maybe its worth extending him a couple years. But it would be completely foolish of the team that is already paying 20MM towards a player who isn't going to play this year to commit even more money to a player who will more likely than not miss significant time this year.

Those who voted for the Redskins to give TW more money are not being realistic. They are allowing their fond memories of TW in his prime to color their judgment on what the team should do now.

If a team is foolish enough to make us an offer we can't refuse, then we should take it. Otherwise, don't negotiate with him. Make him play on his current contract this year. If he stays healthy, then great. He's earned a new contract. If not, then just let him play out his contract and let him walk in 2022
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Just tossing out a general question, does anyone feel good about breaking in a rookie QB with anyone other than Trent protecting his blind side?
No. which is why its good we have him under contract for 2 more years. also, given trents missed significant time the past few years, he'll likely not be protecting our rookie QBs blindside atleast 4-5 games this year, regardless of whether we give him a new contract or not.
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal

This is so tough for me because TW has played hurt, generally kept his mouth shut, and played like a beast for years.

On the other hand, he's another 4:20 break away from a year long suspension because of past transgressions.

Personally, I do the middle ground. Restructure to throw a few extra bucks his way for being a good soldier over the years, but no way in hell do I give him a new contract. I was really hoping TW would just ride off into the sunset as a Skin, but here we are. He DOES have us over a barrel with Christian (and GOD FORBID Flowers) looming, but hey, every game check you miss, let's see how you feel then.

Don't want to establish that precedent.
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Re: Trent Williams holding out for new deal

Even with a Down year he was 15th in pass blocking grades, only allowed 1 sack folks. 1 all year.

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Then explain. What happens if Trent wants more guaranteed money upfront, same with Scherff. How is the team gain more cap space? Iím no cap expert and was assuming since you have to pay 2 players a lot money and have barely any cap space.
You've been around this site long enough to hear me explain cap rules ad nauseum over the years. You should have a basic understanding by now.

If you prefer to keep it simple, just take my word for it on all things salary cap.
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Old 06-05-2019, 11:35 AM   #74
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This proves my point. He's average just like I said.
He had one avg season injured as well, it happens. He's not superman
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You just can't go into the season with Moses, Flowers, and Geron Christian as your tackle situation. The offense becomes a catastrophe. Moreover I don't even consider letting Haskins play behind that tackle setup. If Trent is traded then Haskins has to sit.

We're over a barrel. You can either stare him down and make him play 2019 on the low contract, or you can pay him. I don't think trading him is a practical solution.

Had we known about his position going into free agency or the draft we might have been able to do something, but with it cropping up now, we need him more than any other NFL team needs him.
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