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Old 07-09-2018, 04:58 PM   #196
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There is a train of thought out there about Trump on this issue. Theory is Trump has a serious axe to grind against the NFL. Especially the owners. Seems Trump made a bid to buy the Buffalo Bills in 2014 and the owners 'blackballed' him by not approving the sale. Thoughts are he did not like being prevented from joining that elite fraternity of NFL owners. No matter what the league did here, Trump would find fault in it.
No , he was "blackballed" along time before that .

The 1985 USFL championship game was held at Giants Stadium, home of the New Jersey Generals, who were owned by future presidential candidate Donald Trump. And it was Trump's strategy for the league that is widely considered to have led to its demise.Jul 14, 2015

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Old 07-10-2018, 09:24 PM   #197
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Conveniently leaves out a big stat here...while trying to apple and orange products. What’s the biggest comparable product to the NFL not included?

College Football....and the fact ratings are way up. If Coke sales dropped 15%(huge in the marketplace...NFL yuge) wouldn’t you look at Diet Coke sales?

Also I like how he admits nfl ratings are down but. Streaming has affected tv watching for years...but the nfl before that protest had bucked it.

The protests have certainly affected viewership and the slip in ratings and merchandise are evident to nfl and tv executives.
Not sure if that is true about college football here was last seasons viewership. Overall it was down but the jump at Fox makes me question whether it was a significant downward trend.
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Old 07-11-2018, 12:43 AM   #198
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Yeah as really need to be in the trying to win back viewers and win back respect most of all.
Think the NFL needed to suspend the player or players that kneel down and deck money from their check books/pay.
To teach them a huge lessons. Yes is is chump change. But put politics out of the game. Want to watch the game. Not see a political rally.
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Old 07-19-2018, 12:06 PM   #199
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Yeah as really need to be in the trying to win back viewers and win back respect most of all.
Think the NFL needed to suspend the player or players that kneel down and deck money from their check books/pay.
To teach them a huge lessons. Yes is is chump change. But put politics out of the game. Want to watch the game. Not see a political rally.
"To teach them a huge lessons"? Wait one cotton pickin minute!
Them boys got too much money. Too bad we can't teach them a huge lessons like my grand pappy used to back in the good ole days.
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If you don't want politics in the game, reach out to FOX and demand that they don't acknowledge the protest during the broadcast and don't attend the first 3 minutes of the game.

Mostly white billionaires "punishing" black millionaires isn't the publicity/politics the NFL needs.
NFL owners need to support their current and former players by working with the players on an anthem resolution and also paying out CTE settlements.

The anthem is pretty much run its course but if the owners draw a hard line in the sand, players are going to cross it.
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Old 07-20-2018, 08:14 AM   #200
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I am getting tired of this BS.


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Old 07-20-2018, 08:23 AM   #201
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I haven't heard a better idea yet than the one proposed by Ross Tucker. He said let's have a moment of silence before the anthem where the player's causes will be acknowledged, the players are free to kneel, hold a fist in the air, whatever, then everyone stands for the anthem.
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Old 07-20-2018, 08:39 AM   #202
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I haven't heard a better idea yet than the one proposed by Ross Tucker. He said let's have a moment of silence before the anthem where the player's causes will be acknowledged, the players are free to kneel, hold a fist in the air, whatever, then everyone stands for the anthem.
Fine. I realize this is all for good cause and such but it's not all the same cause and I am just tired of all the BS.
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Old 07-20-2018, 08:40 AM   #203
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I haven't heard a better idea yet than the one proposed by Ross Tucker. He said let's have a moment of silence before the anthem where the player's causes will be acknowledged, the players are free to kneel, hold a fist in the air, whatever, then everyone stands for the anthem.
I think this would be great
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:10 PM   #204
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I haven't heard a better idea yet than the one proposed by Ross Tucker. He said let's have a moment of silence before the anthem where the player's causes will be acknowledged, the players are free to kneel, hold a fist in the air, whatever, then everyone stands for the anthem.
I'm more than fine with that idea!
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Old 07-21-2018, 07:31 PM   #205
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I'll agree that people can kneel during anthem, hell even burn a flag, if ESPN and other sports sites can no longer give a team by team breakdown every week of how many/what players did so.
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Old 08-10-2018, 12:29 PM   #206
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Trump is rock hard over the anthem "issue" today of course

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Such a joke. 2 players kneeled. 24 teams played. 90-man rosters. 2 out of 2,160 players. 0.09%. #StickToActualProblems
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:01 PM   #207
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Personally I don't think they should even play the anthem anymore. Its not played before a movie, concert, or Broadway show so why do it before a sports game. I am always fascinated at how people want to solemnize something as trivial as a sporting event.
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Old 08-10-2018, 03:03 PM   #208
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No , he was "blackballed" along time before that .

The 1985 USFL championship game was held at Giants Stadium, home of the New Jersey Generals, who were owned by future presidential candidate Donald Trump. And it was Trump's strategy for the league that is widely considered to have led to its demise.Jul 14, 2015

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Old 08-10-2018, 05:10 PM   #209
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Funny, I haven't heard of any 'work' being done by these gentlemen on the issues they are protesting about in, oh about seven months. Are the issues they care about so much only worth bringing attention to during football season? If the issues are so near and dear to their hearts that they want to use the two minutes set aside to respect the flag, what the hell are they doing about it when it's not football season? Perhaps the fight persisted after the end of football season, but I haven't been in a hole the last seven months, and I haven't heard or seen anything about it from NFL players...until last night.
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Funny, I haven't heard of any 'work' being done by these gentlemen on the issues they are protesting about in, oh about seven months. Are the issues they care about so much only worth bringing attention to during football season? If the issues are so near and dear to their hearts that they want to use the two minutes set aside to respect the flag, what the hell are they doing about it when it's not football season? Perhaps the fight persisted after the end of football season, but I haven't been in a hole the last seven months, and I haven't heard or seen anything about it from NFL players...until last night.
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