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Old 02-09-2018, 11:45 AM   #46
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And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why the Redskins FO deserves credit for getting Alex Smith for MUCH less. Kirk would want something in this range which (a) he's not worth and (b) much more importantly, would cripple the Skins salary cap.
Agreed.

From what I understood, Smith got a 4 years extension worth 23,5M/yr right?

His current contract pays him 17M (according to sportrac) to 20,6M (according to overthecap) in 2018.

Not a contract expert but anyway for next year that's 7M to 10,5M less than Jimmy G and it might be 10M to 13M less than what Kirk will get !

I'm happy with this. Football is a team sport, need 11 players on the field and 53 on your roster.

One way to put it is: is Kirk worth Alex Smith + a solid starter like Cameron Heyward, Larry Fitzgerald, Cameron Jordan or Luke Kuelchy (to name a few guys making 10M to 13M) ?

My short answer is no.

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Old 02-09-2018, 11:48 AM   #47
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When you have a guy like Chris come out and say you cant pay a QB 30M and help build a good team, that says a lot. This is coming from one of our best players not some bench player. Also as it has been mentioned , who has come out and said their goodbyes to kirk? NOBODY
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Old 02-09-2018, 11:48 AM   #48
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Its a huge difference between 27.5 and 23.5 million, plus Kirk will most likely top that.

Look at all these players or combination of players you can find in the 4 million or less range.

Give me Alex Smith, plus (insert player/players) > Cousins by himself hogging all the money.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...ers/salary.htm
Haha we just had the exact same thinking and posted at the same time!

Except for next year the cap space saved may very well be in the 10M range or above!

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Old 02-09-2018, 11:52 AM   #49
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Haha we just had the exact same thinking and posted at the same time!

Except for next year the cap space saved may very well be in the 10M range or above!

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Yeah, I was just basing mine off the average of his extension. But we agree, we're in better position with Alex Smith to build a great roster the next few years, including this one especially.
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Old 02-09-2018, 11:57 AM   #50
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Yeah, I was just basing mine off the average of his extension. But we agree, we're in better position with Alex Smith to build a great roster the next few years, including this one especially.
From what I get, his salary for 2018 didn't change (17 to 20M) and then we enter the 4 year 94M extension (23,5M/year).

So overall, that's 20M+94M/5years= 22,8M/year !

I like that number, especially after Jimmy G's contract, can't wait to see what Kirk gets. I kinda hope it's an insane amount of money so I can be happy for him and for us !

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Old 02-09-2018, 05:11 PM   #51
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https://twitter.com/ZackMooreNFL/sta...11229231394816

Says it all really. People that overpay for QBs don't go to the Super Bowl. End of story.
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Old 02-09-2018, 05:40 PM   #52
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Says it all really. People that overpay for QBs don't go to the Super Bowl. End of story.
I was actually wondering about this.

To support his point, except the Saints and Steelers, none of the teams paying top 10 avr/yr money to their QB were very successful the last few years:

https://overthecap.com/position/quarterback
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:12 PM   #53
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Says it all really. People that overpay for QBs don't go to the Super Bowl. End of story.
Some of those teams still won but it's due to Brady and Manning and Ben, other than that I agree 10000000%
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:22 AM   #54
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Redskins have the 14th toughest schedule according to CBS Sports:

Strength of Schedule For All 32 Teams

Giants have the 8th toughest, Dallas has the 15th toughest, and the Eagles have the 19th toughest schedule. Certainly all of this can change on a dime once the season begins.
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Redskins have the 14th toughest schedule according to CBS Sports:

Strength of Schedule For All 32 Teams

Giants have the 8th toughest, Dallas has the 15th toughest, and the Eagles have the 19th toughest schedule. Certainly all of this can change on a dime once the season begins.
I never really look at that, the NFL changes every yr. I would have said we LOSE to Oakland before the season.
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:09 AM   #56
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Redskins have the 14th toughest schedule according to CBS Sports:

Strength of Schedule For All 32 Teams

Giants have the 8th toughest, Dallas has the 15th toughest, and the Eagles have the 19th toughest schedule. Certainly all of this can change on a dime once the season begins.
??? So the Giants go 3-13 and the Eagles win the Super Bowl and end up with the easiest schedule in the division,what the fuck?
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Old 02-12-2018, 10:21 AM   #57
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??? So the Giants go 3-13 and the Eagles win the Super Bowl and end up with the easiest schedule in the division,what the fuck?
The Eagles have the easiest schedule in the division because they play six games against the other teams in their division, all of which are shitty. It can't be helped.
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Old 02-12-2018, 11:39 AM   #58
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The Eagles have the easiest schedule in the division because they play six games against the other teams in their division, all of which are shitty. It can't be helped.
It works in reverse too. all the teams in the division play the 3-13 Giants twice, while the Giants obviously don't. So their strength of schedule will be the hardest in division by default.
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Old 02-12-2018, 03:39 PM   #59
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Nobody has won the east back2back since 2004 and that was PHILLY.. I'm willing to say it won't happen again
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:52 PM   #60
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Add another name to the list of people I won't read anymore. Bill Barnwell at ESPN. Writes an article for things each team should do in NFCE and list the teams by their full names except ours, we're just "Washingon". What a self righteous POS. Another white guy pretending to be shocked and offended by the name, even though native americans don't care. Oh you're native american and don't mind the name, oh you're just too dumb to get it, so I'll be triggered for you.
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