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Old 05-25-2018, 11:19 AM   #16
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His ability to make tough catches like he has done, but his knock is can he stay healthy
I don't remember any real tough contested catch from Doctson last season... I remember 2 dropped TDs though.
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Old 05-25-2018, 11:33 AM   #17
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lol easy to remember the negatives
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Old 05-25-2018, 12:09 PM   #18
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lol easy to remember the negatives
It sure is, in his case. Like the way smaller DB's easily jam his routes at the LOS. He might get better at route running and he might get physically stronger but will he ever be tough enough to become a legitimate NFL starter?

I thought he was the best WR in the draft when he came out of college. Now I think he might not not make it in this league.
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Old 05-25-2018, 01:07 PM   #19
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I don't remember any real tough contested catch from Doctson last season... I remember 2 dropped TDs though.
The seattle game winner? The jump ball in the EZ against Dallas?
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Old 05-25-2018, 01:40 PM   #20
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lol yea i remember him making some good catches for sure.. And i do think he will continue to improve, he's been hampered by injuries and still learning im sure... he can get a little more physical and build up that aspect of his game, sure, but not every WR that turns out to be good to solid is a world beater the first few years. So my patience is just fine with Josh
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Old 05-25-2018, 01:51 PM   #21
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Doctson has shown the ability for sure....its about being consistent now.

The one play that sticks out was the throw to him in the Kansas City game.....god, that catch would have been top 3 in the league last year. His athleticism to get up for it at an unbelievable catch angle.....he couldn't stick the landing.

Man I wanted to cry...game winner-almost
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Old 05-25-2018, 03:10 PM   #22
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The seattle game winner? The jump ball in the EZ against Dallas?
I'm sorry but these are pretty catches, not tough contested catches.
The one against Seattle is a nice diving catch, the one against the Boys is a nice jump ball, but in both cases he's untouched.

So yeah, I know he can make good catches, but I can't remember a true wowing tough contested catch...

The one against KC would've been amazing... I just re-watched one late in the 2nd against the Broncos he absolutely should've caught in the endzone, perfect throw in a tight window by Cousins, untouched, drops it...

I'm not saying he doesn't have the potential, I just haven't seen much of it so far.

EDIT: watched some random 2017 Doctson highlights , a part from a nice one against the Saints, and another one against the Raiders that I had forgotten, I don't think he has proved yet that he can make crazy catches at the NFL level. Hope he does this year.
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Old 05-25-2018, 03:58 PM   #23
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I'm sorry but these are pretty catches, not tough contested catches.
The one against Seattle is a nice diving catch, the one against the Boys is a nice jump ball, but in both cases he's untouched.

So yeah, I know he can make good catches, but I can't remember a true wowing tough contested catch...

The one against KC would've been amazing... I just re-watched one late in the 2nd against the Broncos he absolutely should've caught in the endzone, perfect throw in a tight window by Cousins, untouched, drops it...

I'm not saying he doesn't have the potential, I just haven't seen much of it so far.

EDIT: watched some random 2017 Doctson highlights , a part from a nice one against the Saints, and another one against the Raiders that I had forgotten, I don't think he has proved yet that he can make crazy catches at the NFL level. Hope he does this year.

Doctson's production has been disappointing but Jay and Kirk have to share the blame for his lack of production.
Since Garcon left, we haven't thrown quick slants to WR's.
Cooley has said on the radio that KC does not throw Doctson jumpballs in practice, he runs the offense exactly like game day. Doctson needs to work on these things to execute them in the game.

For whatever reason, KC did not throw Slants, Fades or back shoulder balls.
These are all critical throws and keeps drives alive but it wasn't a part of our system.

I'm hopeful the addition of AS is going to give Doctson a big boost.

BTW, F...Kirk Cousins!
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:04 PM   #24
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Doctson's production has been disappointing but Jay and Kirk have to share the blame for his lack of production.
Since Garcon left, we haven't thrown quick slants to WR's.
Cooley has said on the radio that KC does not throw Doctson jumpballs in practice, he runs the offense exactly like game day. Doctson needs to work on these things to execute them in the game.

For whatever reason, KC did not throw Slants, Fades or back shoulder balls.
These are all critical throws and keeps drives alive but it wasn't a part of our system.

I'm hopeful the addition of AS is going to give Doctson a big boost.

BTW, F...Kirk Cousins!
This is why I'm willing to give a clean slate to the WRs. We have a new QB and let's see how they do with him.
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:20 PM   #25
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This is why I'm willing to give a clean slate to the WRs. We have a new QB and let's see how they do with him.
Oh if they deliver I won't be one to b*tch about last year's dropped balls... And I sure hope Doctson makes a huge step forward!
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:24 PM   #26
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I can't help to think that maybe some of Kirk's game, especially last year, was all about padding the numbers, less about helping these guys get developed. When Favre was playing, the dude went after it. If it got picked, it got picked, but he wasn't afraid to break in a new receiver.
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:32 PM   #27
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A catch can still be tough whether it’s “contested” or not. Tracking a deep ball and fully laying out for it sure isn’t easy.
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Old 05-25-2018, 04:39 PM   #28
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A catch can still be tough whether it’s “contested” or not. Tracking a deep ball and fully laying out for it sure isn’t easy.
Not denying he made some nice catches, just saying I wouldn't grant Doctson a tough catcher WR, because IMO he hasn't proven that yet. Too many drops for too few catches.
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Not denying he made some nice catches, just saying I wouldn't grant Doctson a tough catcher WR, because IMO he hasn't proven that yet. Too many drops for too few catches.
I'm not trying to make excuses for him but those catches are harder to do when you only get 1 target a quarter.

He needs to earn a bigger role in our game plan or GTFO.
It's been long enough.
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Reed? Doctson? Who are they?
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