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Old 10-06-2018, 11:14 PM   #61
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I love it. Great metric.

I think one thing it misses is how quickly a guy wins. They use the cutoff of 2.5 seconds to determine whether a block or a pass rush was successful. But of course if a rusher wins at 1.5 seconds instead of at 2.4 seconds, thatís more impactful. But still, I think this is a better way to view it than counting the Time in Pocket which may be short on purpose because the QB just gets rid of the ball super quickly (Brady).
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I don't think expressing the idea that there are different degrees, tiers, grades of "hurries" and "pressures" is embarrassing at all.

Further, I don't think expressing the idea that the crappiest "hurries" that fall into the crappiest tier may not relate to sacks even though they may show up on ESPN's stat sheet is embarrassing either.

I do think going straight to ad hominem attacks without mentioning, in any way, the argument with which you disagree is embarassing because it is a lazy rhetorical crutch.

I simply proposed in post #152 (for those reading along) that all "pressures" are not the same, and that some may not be a good indicator of a near sack, and some, on the other hand probably are, but there isn't necessarily a correlation, and definitely not a causation.

Scenario 1, Kerrigan pressures Andrew Luck on step 3 of a 5 step drop. The pressure gets there before Luck is expecting it and before the Offensive line drops to block for 5 steps. They are out of position because the pressure arrives to quickly. He has to throw the ball out of bounds BECAUSE Kerrigan gets there ahead of schedule.

Scenario 2, Kerrigan pressures Andrew Luck on step 7 of a 5 step drop. Luck has already gone through all of his reads, nobody is open, Kerrigan is closing in and nearly gets his hands on him, Luck is EXPECTING pressure because it is a 5 step drop and he has been holding the ball too long. He throws the ball out of bounds.

Those plays would show up in ESPN's stat column as pressures, but they are radically different in the likelihood of resulting in a sack.

In the first, Luck isn't expecting pressure and has an "oh crap" moment and isn't able to plan but has to react.

In the second, Kerrigan is just as close to Luck, but the internal clock is ticking and Luck knows he has to throw it away. Despite being just as close to a sack physically, in reality Kerrigan isn't close at all because Luck is prepared to end the play with as positive a result as the situation makes possible.
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Too long, didnít read.

Iím just going to assume it was all drivel.
Cool story.

All drivel till you say it?

Maybe it wasn't too long to read.

Post game packers thread starting around post 172.

Polly want a cracker?
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:57 AM   #62
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Re: Skins v Saints Pre game thread

I don't want to wait until tomorrow to play. Lame!
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Old 10-07-2018, 01:19 PM   #63
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From looking back at the way the Saints have played all season up and till now. They havenít been able to reach the end zone in the first half. They settled for 4 field goals last week against a middle of the pack Giants defense. 1 assisted by a converted fake punt on 4th down and another a fumble recovery at the Giants 11. Itís been like this all year they have only found the end zone 4 times in the first half 3 coming week 1 against Tampa bay and the other the opening drive to Atlanta.

If we can come out and stay aggressive the first half like we have in the games that we came to play and the defense can keep the run game in check with some pressure on Brees we can do this. It is near impossible for Brees to not make the milestone tomorrow as the Saints will do everything in their power to ensure it happens at home. But if we get off the ball quick and put up some first half points and play our game we should stand victorious in the end.

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Old 10-07-2018, 02:23 PM   #64
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Cool story.

All drivel till you say it?

Maybe it wasn't too long to read.

Post game packers thread starting around post 172.

Polly want a cracker?
I donít get it.
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Old 10-07-2018, 09:21 PM   #65
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Or just take the off altogether


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Old 10-07-2018, 09:24 PM   #66
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I donít get it.


Yes you do....
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Old 10-08-2018, 09:30 AM   #67
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Yes you do....
No I don't - I didn't read it. It's too long.
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:35 AM   #68
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Re: Skins v Saints Pre game thread

Any questions of, "Is this defense for real?" should be answered after tonight.

You do your best to shut down Kamara, and force Brees to challenge our secondary. Hopefully some of the young talent at CB steps up.

On offense, I can't imagine a game plan other than feed AP and CT the rock. What do you think the over/under is for passes completed to a WR should be? 4?

Hard one to predict, but I like the Saints at home. 31 - 24
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Old 10-08-2018, 11:48 AM   #69
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My hope is that the by week gave our O some time to get things together. Our D will get its biggest test tonight and we win by 10 points. I also think Chris Thompson gets things rolling this week. He was injured last year in the Saints game. Maybe some motivation there.
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Old 10-08-2018, 12:55 PM   #70
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Any questions of, "Is this defense for real?" should be answered after tonight.

You do your best to shut down Kamara, and force Brees to challenge our secondary. Hopefully some of the young talent at CB steps up.

On offense, I can't imagine a game plan other than feed AP and CT the rock. What do you think the over/under is for passes completed to a WR should be? 4?

Hard one to predict, but I like the Saints at home. 31 - 24
I agree...Saints are a good measuring stick for the defense and team in general. Saints wonít rollover.

We need to continue to run the ball...keep Brees off the field. Also, field goals wonít work tonight....letís convert our red zone opportunities to titties.
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Old 10-08-2018, 01:15 PM   #71
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Dallas,giants,eagles lost... Monday night game prime time !! We are playing for first place!! What do you guys really think is gonna happen😳... maybe itís time for the good stuff to happen for a change! Go SKINS!
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Old 10-08-2018, 01:17 PM   #72
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Dallas,giants,eagles lost... Monday night game prime time !! We are playing for first place!! What do you guys really think is gonna happen😳... maybe itís time for the good stuff to happen for a change! Go SKINS!
This is the perfect setup for a Normal Dan Snyder owned Redskins disaster on MNF... But I don't think that happens this time around.
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Old 10-08-2018, 03:08 PM   #73
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im nervous as hell for tonight
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Old 10-08-2018, 03:13 PM   #74
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This is the perfect setup for a Normal Dan Snyder owned Redskins disaster on MNF... But I don't think that happens this time around.
unfortunately that is exactly what i see happening.
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Old 10-08-2018, 03:31 PM   #75
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Re: Skins v Saints Pre game thread

The Saints' run D is actually pretty stout -- they're being burned in the secondary. Reed, Crowder, and CT could have big games and the short possession passing offense may be our best bet to keep the Saints O and their various weapons off the field.

I hope the team approaches this game as being about respect. Because it is. Beat at team like the Saints at home, and you're relevant. Do it when no one (outside of the Warpath) thinks you can.
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