How the draft looks if we trade down

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-31-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Not a bad strategy.

Yeah, no strategy is full proof, but like the old saying goes, better a round too early than a pick too late

jamf · 12-31-2014, 01:10 PM

I hate the trade down talk.
You only trade down out of the top 5 pick if a team wants to take a premiere player, think ricky williams.

Top 5 pick should be an impact player that starts from day one.
We need another Trent Williams or Sean Taylor quality player so it's in our best interest to stay at 5 if one of those type of players is available.

adding second round picks does nothing for us.
Top 5 pick should be a can't miss player.

Second round picks you end up with players like Jarvis Jenkins, Malcolm Kelly, Fred Davis, Devin Thomas and David Amerson if you aren't careful.

Basically, Don't do it unless you have some jackass like the Saints and Ditka calling for a player!

Lotus · 12-31-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

They said that about Aldon Smith, and I see Winston being a great player, I would put those OL there too just didnt for that statement

If Winston is a great player, we need to take him, because we need a starting quality QB badly.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-31-2014, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

If Winston is a great player, we need to take him, because we need a starting quality QB badly.

I see a more athletic Ben Roethlisberger in him. I really do but you know people talk about "character issues"

Skinsfanatic · 12-31-2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I see a more athletic Ben Roethlisberger in him. I really do but you know people talk about "character issues"

Character issues would still make him a more athletic Roethlisberger, right?

Lotus · 12-31-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I see a more athletic Ben Roethlisberger in him. I really do but you know people talk about "character issues"

I admit, I am a little leery of Winston, and not just for character issues. I have a hard time seeing him as a style fit within an offense like Gruden's. But granting that you are correct, taking him at #5 rather than trading down is a no-brainer, as you have said.

SFREDSKIN · 12-31-2014, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

If Winston is a great player, we need to take him, because we need a starting quality QB badly.

He could be your next Johnny Football with his attitude and your #1 pick be another questionable pick or draft choice. That's the last thing the FO needs after going 4-12, the safe pick would be Mariotta or wait till the later rounds and draft Brian Hogan Stanford QB.

skinsfaninok · 12-31-2014, 03:39 PM

I don't want Winston, just doesn't strike me as a pure passer and franchise QB.

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-31-2014, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I don't want Winston, just doesn't strike me as a pure passer and franchise QB.

Just curious, why don't you think he is a passer???

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 12-31-2014, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinsfanatic

Character issues would still make him a more athletic Roethlisberger, right?

Yeah, depending on what you define as a character issue.

TheMalcolmConnection · 12-31-2014, 05:01 PM

Regardless of whether Winston is the next big thing or a bust, coming in now would be the worst possible timing for him to come. Shadows of RG3, tons of scandal, shitty record. Talk about setting up someone to fail. If we were to (god forbid) draft a QB early, we need someone of the strongest mental character to even have a chance.

Winston is a pretty good QB, but he still has some growing up to do and DC is not the place to do it right now.

donofriose · 12-31-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Just curious, why don't you think he is a passer???

Two problems I have with Winston... he throws a lot of picks (some weren't his fault but a lot were just like any other qb).

Other problem I have is his odd realese. Just takes a while but he can throw rockets.

He also had a superior oline and it is obvious the skins will take years to develop an oline. Rather do what Seattle did and build a team and then find your QB... Even in the late first round.

Only team that won a super bowl with a top QB in the draft (like a top 5 pick) in the past 10 years were the colts. Even with manning they didn't win until they built a team around him.

skinsfaninok · 12-31-2014, 05:16 PM

Quake to me he just doesn't seem to have that it factor as a pocket passer. Also he's not that accurate when it comes to the "easy" throws. Also the dude is just apparently dumb off the field and I really don't want to hear about drama and shit any longer

British Andy · 12-31-2014, 05:18 PM

Stop with the drafting a QB talk already.

Fix the freakin' lines. Have we not learned anything these past years?

Lotus · 12-31-2014, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by British Andy

Stop with the drafting a QB talk already.

Fix the freakin' lines. Have we not learned anything these past years?

OK, then whom do we draft on the lines who will be available at 5?

12-31-2014, 01:10 PM	#62
jamf Pro Bowl Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: San Diego Ca Posts: 5,174	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down I hate the trade down talk. You only trade down out of the top 5 pick if a team wants to take a premiere player, think ricky williams. Top 5 pick should be an impact player that starts from day one. We need another Trent Williams or Sean Taylor quality player so it's in our best interest to stay at 5 if one of those type of players is available. adding second round picks does nothing for us. Top 5 pick should be a can't miss player. Second round picks you end up with players like Jarvis Jenkins, Malcolm Kelly, Fred Davis, Devin Thomas and David Amerson if you aren't careful. Basically, Don't do it unless you have some jackass like the Saints and Ditka calling for a player!

12-31-2014, 03:39 PM	#68
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 35,986	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down I don't want Winston, just doesn't strike me as a pure passer and franchise QB. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-31-2014, 05:01 PM	#71
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Lexington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 19,218	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Regardless of whether Winston is the next big thing or a bust, coming in now would be the worst possible timing for him to come. Shadows of RG3, tons of scandal, shitty record. Talk about setting up someone to fail. If we were to (god forbid) draft a QB early, we need someone of the strongest mental character to even have a chance. Winston is a pretty good QB, but he still has some growing up to do and DC is not the place to do it right now. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

12-31-2014, 05:16 PM	#73
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 35,986	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Quake to me he just doesn't seem to have that it factor as a pocket passer. Also he's not that accurate when it comes to the "easy" throws. Also the dude is just apparently dumb off the field and I really don't want to hear about drama and shit any longer __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-31-2014, 05:18 PM	#74
British Andy Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 29	Re: How the draft looks if we trade down Stop with the drafting a QB talk already. Fix the freakin' lines. Have we not learned anything these past years?

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