Draft grades

FrenchSkin · 04-29-2018, 06:59 PM

I saw this video a few days after the combine, I didn't realize until now this is the guy we drafted, that was a lot of fun...

Deion Sanders can't believe Troy Apke runs a 4.35

... and a lot of speed!

SFREDSKIN · 04-29-2018, 08:19 PM

Payne, Guide, Settle, Hamilton, Quinn were great picks. Hamilton would have gone higher if it wasn’t for injuries.

Ivar the Boneless · 04-29-2018, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Payne, Guide, Settle, Hamilton, Quinn were great picks. Hamilton would have gone higher if it wasn’t for injuries.

Quinn might be a rare gem steal in the 7th. I gave them a B in the draft poll, but then I always do. One can't really grade a draft til at least two years after and see how the guys pan out. I liked our draft 2 years ago and gave it a A, but now it looks like a C at best since some of then aren't even on the team anymore.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-29-2018, 08:53 PM

If we had gotten edmunds or James in the first, it would be an A+. But i think we more than made up for it getting Guice at the bottom of the 2nd and Settle in the 5th... not to mention trading up for Hamilton in the 6th. This is the most excited I’ve been about a draft class in a long long time.

NC_Skins · 04-29-2018, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If we had gotten edmunds or James in the first, it would be an A+. But i think we more than made up for it getting Guice at the bottom of the 2nd and Settle in the 5th... not to mention trading up for Hamilton in the 6th. This is the most excited I’ve been about a draft class in a long long time.

From what I gather, I think 5 teams failed James knee and we were one of those five teams. Besides, this game is won on the front line. A good safety isn't going to be what we need to stop the run consistently.

BigHairedAristocrat · 04-29-2018, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

From what I gather, I think 5 teams failed James knee and we were one of those five teams. Besides, this game is won on the front line. A good safety isn't going to be what we need to stop the run consistently.

...and a good run stopping d lineman isn’t going to stop the pass consistently. We lost two of our 3 best past defenders in the offseason and haven’t really done much to replace them. Unless James has some catastrophic issue injury, i personally believe our defense as a whole would have been better off with James or Edmunds. It’s a passing league, after all. I’m not really complaining - i think we had An extremely good draft. Just think it could have been a little bit better.

FrenchSkin · 04-30-2018, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

...and a good run stopping d lineman isn’t going to stop the pass consistently. We lost two of our 3 best past defenders in the offseason and haven’t really done much to replace them. Unless James has some catastrophic issue injury, i personally believe our defense as a whole would have been better off with James or Edmunds. It’s a passing league, after all. I’m not really complaining - i think we had An extremely good draft. Just think it could have been a little bit better.

But having a big body pushing the pocket back can help our others big guys and our pass rushers get there.
Like Kerrigan often gets outside and down the field a little too much, but if you have Allen, Payne and Ioannidis just moving their guys 4 yards back and forcing the QB move, it can turn into a sack or a stripped ball.

KI Skins Fan · 04-30-2018, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

...and a good run stopping d lineman isn’t going to stop the pass consistently. We lost two of our 3 best past defenders in the offseason and haven’t really done much to replace them. Unless James has some catastrophic issue injury, i personally believe our defense as a whole would have been better off with James or Edmunds. It’s a passing league, after all. I’m not really complaining - i think we had An extremely good draft. Just think it could have been a little bit better.

That's pretty much the way I see it. We had a very strong draft. Needs were addressed. We did more for our ST than we've done in forever. We got back a third round pick and still got Guice. The movement around the draft board was masterful. Yet, we didn't get a player with All-Pro potential when we passed on James, so I had to drop the grade a little. Still, the Skins did a fine job drafting.

NC_Skins · 04-29-2018, 09:42 PM

I'm giving the Skins a fucking A. It's been a while since I could say we hit it out the park but that's exactly what this FO did this draft. That was marvelous trading down in the 2nd to pick a guy up that many fans wanted at the #15 spot. It was great value and a hell of a ballsy move. We also added that extra third rounder we lost in the Alex Smith trade so it's like we got Alex Smith for free. Loved our 1st pick in Dayne and by far something we needed desparately. More OL in the 3rd was just gravy and hopefully they can fill that LG spot for a while.

FrenchSkin · 04-30-2018, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm giving the Skins a fucking A. It's been a while since I could say we hit it out the park but that's exactly what this FO did this draft. That was marvelous trading down in the 2nd to pick a guy up that many fans wanted at the #15 spot. It was great value and a hell of a ballsy move. We also added that extra third rounder we lost in the Alex Smith trade so it's like we got Alex Smith for free. Loved our 1st pick in Dayne and by far something we needed desparately. More OL in the 3rd was just gravy and hopefully they can fill that LG spot for a while.

Well, losing Fuller wasn't exactly for free, but I'm with you, that was a great move.

JWsleep · 04-30-2018, 12:35 AM

The move down in the 2nd was serious business. A for that alone. But I like the need-based drafting. Also, I still am a bit shocked when they don't just shit the bed! Post-Vinnie trauma syndrome...

skinsfaninok · 04-30-2018, 08:39 AM

I'll say a solid B for now, hopefully turns into an A this season. Guice is a star in the making, Payne I see as a solid starter too. The rest are ? guys. Settle could be the steal of this draft

skinsfaninok · 04-30-2018, 09:07 AM

I think Ty could be a good fill in guy for a yr, I mean he can't be any worse can he?

TheMalcolmConnection · 04-30-2018, 09:11 AM

B+/A-. Was so pumped at the value we got at each pick. The PSU guy was the only head scratcher to me.

I'm also REALLY amped at our UDFAs. Some of these people were projected as 3rd/4th round picks.

skinsfaninok · 04-30-2018, 09:16 AM

Don't know if this was posted yet but here are the UDFA Pick ups
RB Martez Carter, WR Simmie Cobbs, DL Davon Durant, TE Matt Flanagan, WR Micah Holder, OL Timon Parris, WR De'Mornay Pierson-El, FB Elijah Wellman

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04-29-2018, 08:19 PM	#2
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Draft grades Payne, Guide, Settle, Hamilton, Quinn were great picks. Hamilton would have gone higher if it wasn’t for injuries. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

04-29-2018, 08:53 PM	#4
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Draft grades If we had gotten edmunds or James in the first, it would be an A+. But i think we more than made up for it getting Guice at the bottom of the 2nd and Settle in the 5th... not to mention trading up for Hamilton in the 6th. This is the most excited I’ve been about a draft class in a long long time. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

04-29-2018, 09:42 PM	#9
NC_Skins Gamebreaker Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 14,539	Re: Draft grades I'm giving the Skins a fucking A. It's been a while since I could say we hit it out the park but that's exactly what this FO did this draft. That was marvelous trading down in the 2nd to pick a guy up that many fans wanted at the #15 spot. It was great value and a hell of a ballsy move. We also added that extra third rounder we lost in the Alex Smith trade so it's like we got Alex Smith for free. Loved our 1st pick in Dayne and by far something we needed desparately. More OL in the 3rd was just gravy and hopefully they can fill that LG spot for a while. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

04-30-2018, 12:35 AM	#11
JWsleep Propane and propane accessories Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, TX Age: 56 Posts: 4,719	Re: Draft grades The move down in the 2nd was serious business. A for that alone. But I like the need-based drafting. Also, I still am a bit shocked when they don't just shit the bed! Post-Vinnie trauma syndrome... __________________ Hail from Houston!

04-29-2018, 06:59 PM	#1
FrenchSkin Playmaker Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 4,525	Re: Draft grades I saw this video a few days after the combine, I didn't realize until now this is the guy we drafted, that was a lot of fun... Deion Sanders can't believe Troy Apke runs a 4.35 ... and a lot of speed! __________________ Derz Ambassaderz in the Land of the Rising Sun. Oui Monsieur.

04-30-2018, 08:39 AM	#12
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,175	Re: Draft grades I'll say a solid B for now, hopefully turns into an A this season. Guice is a star in the making, Payne I see as a solid starter too. The rest are ? guys. Settle could be the steal of this draft __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

04-30-2018, 09:07 AM	#13
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,175	Re: Draft grades I think Ty could be a good fill in guy for a yr, I mean he can't be any worse can he? __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

04-30-2018, 09:11 AM	#14
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,263	Re: Draft grades B+/A-. Was so pumped at the value we got at each pick. The PSU guy was the only head scratcher to me. I'm also REALLY amped at our UDFAs. Some of these people were projected as 3rd/4th round picks. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

04-30-2018, 09:16 AM	#15
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,175	Re: Draft grades Don't know if this was posted yet but here are the UDFA Pick ups RB Martez Carter, WR Simmie Cobbs, DL Davon Durant, TE Matt Flanagan, WR Micah Holder, OL Timon Parris, WR De'Mornay Pierson-El, FB Elijah Wellman __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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