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Old 01-16-2023, 03:27 PM   #106
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Yep .. makes sense to me ! Ron is only staying as coach because of sale .. he is lame duck coach and it would be a big mistake to bring in some aging vet with a huge contract with all the uncertainties.. go with Howell for now!
If he is a lame duck I am not sure he cares what the next coaching staff has to deal with in regards to FA contracts.
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Old 01-16-2023, 03:46 PM   #107
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When does the OC solely decide who is the QB? If they are doing this, I'm fine. Be upfront: this is the QB you'll get to work with. You need to come in and figure out a way to make him successful with solid running game and some very good receivers.
It’s still incompetent to go out and get a guy who the OC doesn’t want. OC needs to be a voice in the room in the QB decision.
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Old 01-16-2023, 05:13 PM   #108
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If he is a lame duck I am not sure he cares what the next coaching staff has to deal with in regards to FA contracts.
You are correct .. so know matter what he does the next owner will probably hire a GM and blow it all up .. Ron is in a position to go with Sam , I’m not sure Snyder will want to pay a Rogers or Brady knowing he is selling … with all that said I’m not sure it’s a done deal Snyder is selling ..
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Old 01-16-2023, 05:18 PM   #109
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This is the absolute worst place to come if you want to be an NFL OC.
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Old 01-16-2023, 07:01 PM   #110
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Well, you need to sign Payne, Curl, Holcomb and others, they better or they are going nowhere. In my opinion the only FA's that need to be signed are these teams FA's. Draft 3 OL, a CB, LB, QB, DL, K and we are set.
No for sure, like it's been said by others, Ron has a job and he's going to do it, and like I said I want them to keep them building the roster the right way. Just don't want them to spend huge $ or trade big assets, ie for a big name QB.
I also hope they find at least one OL in FA, not sure you can hope to find all your needs in the draft, don't want to put yourself in a position where you'd be tempted to reach.
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This is the absolute worst place to come if you want to be an NFL OC.
Is it though? Barring a complete nose dive, there's an opportunity near to make your name.

Worst you can probably do is be as bad as Turner (who'll probably get another shot somewhere).

Turn this offence into a top 20 unit and play competitive and you can say look what I started with and turned it into. Great on the CV of a young OC

Turn this offense into a top 16 or higher offence in one season and you're probably going to be looking at a HC job in your future.
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Is it though? Barring a complete nose dive, there's an opportunity near to make your name.

Worst you can probably do is be as bad as Turner (who'll probably get another shot somewhere).

Turn this offence into a top 20 unit and play competitive and you can say look what I started with and turned it into. Great on the CV of a young OC

Turn this offense into a top 16 or higher offence in one season and you're probably going to be looking at a HC job in your future.
I'd rather be the OC here in 2023 than in 2022. At least there is a chance for success. Howell has upside and potential.

Heinicke isn't good and Wentz is even worse. Neither of them are getting any better than they are now.

If Rivera can assemble even a mediocre offensive line, the offense can be successful. We absolutely have the weapons to score points.

The O.C. won't know all of the pieces before being hired, so there is some risk. The O.C. should almost be interviewing Rivera the same as Rivera is interviewing him. Mainly, what is your plan for the offensive line? I'm not coming if it looks anything like last year's line.
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Old 01-16-2023, 09:14 PM   #113
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I think we could get someone that’s young , high energy, innovative and a nice rack… wait what are we talking about?
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I'd rather be the OC here in 2023 than in 2022. At least there is a chance for success. Howell has upside and potential.



Heinicke isn't good and Wentz is even worse. Neither of them are getting any better than they are now.



If Rivera can assemble even a mediocre offensive line, the offense can be successful. We absolutely have the weapons to score points.



The O.C. won't know all of the pieces before being hired, so there is some risk. The O.C. should almost be interviewing Rivera the same as Rivera is interviewing him. Mainly, what is your plan for the offensive line? I'm not coming if it looks anything like last year's line.
Yeah, there are only 32 NFL OC jobs on the planet, and if they fix the Oline this is about as good an offensive roster as you gonna get. Yes there is uncertainty but I don't buy that this OC position is this absolute shitty job that no competent candidate would want of.

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Yeah, there are only 32 NFL OC jobs on the planet, and if they fix the Oline this is about as good an offensive roster as you gonna get. Yes there is uncertainty but I don't buy that this OC position is this absolute shitty job that no competent candidate would want of.

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Old 01-17-2023, 08:13 AM   #116
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i be impressed if SH beat the DAL of last night not the DAL of last week. Entirely two different teams.
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i be impressed if SH beat the DAL of last night not the DAL of last week. Entirely two different teams.
Agreed. I do think our defense had something to do with that though.
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Old 01-17-2023, 12:56 PM   #118
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Agreed. I do think our defense had something to do with that though.
I think Dallas looked at our game as a pop quiz and the TB game as a final exam.

And how our defense performed has little bearing on SH performance.
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I think Dallas looked at our game as a pop quiz and the TB game as a final exam.

And how our defense performed has little bearing on SH performance.
I think the win against Dallas was a result of a combination of them being overconfident and underestimating this team's will to win that game.

SH didn't play defense, but I think the performance of the defense did have an impact on his performance. He was able to stick with the somewhat conservative game plan, and wasn't asked or forced to do too much. His performance could have looked much different if the team played from behind, and he had to throw the ball 40 times. As it turns out, they didn't have to play from behind thanks to the defense, so in my opinion the defense had a lot to do with SH's performance.

I do agree with you, that Dallas looked like a different team last night, but I think it's because Washington is a much better team than Tampa.
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Old 01-17-2023, 01:36 PM   #120
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The NFL is a week to week league, matchups matter. Tampa has no pass rush and it showed. SF has argubly the best EDGE Rusher in the league. Dak wont have all day next week
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