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Old 08-03-2020, 07:59 PM   #151
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OTC has a slightly different bonus proration structure, but in any case it would be a post June 1 release which has less impact on this years cap, always thought OTC was a good resource.......

Apologies just reread your post and the numbers appear to be about the same, what I meant was 0 additional cap hit if we cut him now
Just my 2 cents here...I’ve always like sportstrac a little better than otc. Sportstrac salary predictions have always been a lil off, but there free agent lists and team dashboards are pretty cool.
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Old 08-03-2020, 10:16 PM   #152
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Cut him in 2021. Trade him now if he can actually pass the physical later AND he really insists on playing.

The future is Haskins. He should be given the entire season to prove himself or not. I think he will have an excellent season unless the OL collapses. If Haskins has a poor season, because of his own actions, then we draft the best QB in the 2021 draft.

Alex Smith and the incredibly generous contract he was given, was the last turd left by Bruce Allen. Bruce panicked after totally mismanaging the “Kurt” Cousins affair.

I salute Alex Smith’s grit and amazing recovery. But if we ever play him and he is hurt again, the team will be crucified by the press.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:42 AM   #153
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Cut him in 2021. Trade him now if he can actually pass the physical later AND he really insists on playing.

The future is Haskins. He should be given the entire season to prove himself or not. I think he will have an excellent season unless the OL collapses. If Haskins has a poor season, because of his own actions, then we draft the best QB in the 2021 draft.

Alex Smith and the incredibly generous contract he was given, was the last turd left by Bruce Allen. Bruce panicked after totally mismanaging the “Kurt” Cousins affair.

I salute Alex Smith’s grit and amazing recovery. But if we ever play him and he is hurt again, the team will be crucified by the press.
If Alex had not been injured, his contract would have been worth it. I was extremely excited about getting him here and he showed us what he could do, even under a turd coach like Gruden...had led the team to a 6-2 start!

Look how bad the team was post-Smith that season. He's just a winner.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:46 AM   #154
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If Alex had not been injured, his contract would have been worth it. I was extremely excited about getting him here and he showed us what he could do, even under a turd coach like Gruden...had led the team to a 6-2 start!

Look how bad the team was post-Smith that season. He's just a winner.
He was the perfect game manager for us that season, I really thought we were going to win the east and 11 games.. This organization proved how ill prepared they were after he went down, Colt Mccoy was never reliable either and that was our backup plan.... Again losers lose for a reason
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:48 AM   #155
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RR "Alex knows about 75% of this offense and Dwayne is not far behind"
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Old 08-04-2020, 10:41 AM   #156
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He was the perfect game manager for us that season, I really thought we were going to win the east and 11 games.. This organization proved how ill prepared they were after he went down, Colt Mccoy was never reliable either and that was our backup plan.... Again losers lose for a reason
I think Colt could have carried us to a few more wins and kept us in at least the Wild Card hunt. We did win a game with Josh Johnson.

Colt's almost immediate leg break was crazy...it's like someone put a curse on us.

Sanchez...worst idea ever. That was embarrassing. Josh Johnson at least made it fun to watch at times with his running but we were doomed at that point.

No team could have been prepared for that series of events.



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Old 08-04-2020, 02:43 PM   #157
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If Alex had not been injured, his contract would have been worth it. I was extremely excited about getting him here and he showed us what he could do, even under a turd coach like Gruden...had led the team to a 6-2 start!

Look how bad the team was post-Smith that season. He's just a winner.

Sorry but I have to disagree with you. Alex DID get us to 6-2 using a very high percentage, short passing game. But other teams were catching on fast, which is why he was hurt! Alex just didn’t have anything but the short passing game. If you remember the games we lost that year with Alex, the team was behind and Smith refused to come out of the short passing game to win. No long or medium passes, just the same old dink and dunk to defeat.

You can’t win in the NFL with a one dimensional offense. The Redskins won six games because we caught the opponents by surprise with this high percentage, low risk offense. But I doubt we would have won, EVEN ONE MORE GAME, even if Alex had not been hurt. The teams were starting to play “8 in the box” defenses and Alex wouldn’t or couldn’t get out of the short passing game. Alex did NOT have the ability to go long.

We had a little honeymoon period with Alex Smith. But, I seriously if he would have won any more games because of his passing limitations. His injury was NOT a LUCKY defensive play. Defenses were stuffing his one-dimensional offense and he was increasingly under heavy pressure. He probably was on a trajectory for an injury that season.

Alex Smith has shown his grit, determination and courage in his incredible recovery. I salute him for that. But let’s not take a 6-2 start and assume we were on the way to a wild card or playoff berth. Defenses had totally and AGGRESSIVELY ADJUSTED to his passing game and I doubt we would have won even one more game with an unhurt Smith at the helm.


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Old 08-04-2020, 03:06 PM   #158
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If Alex had not been injured, his contract would have been worth it. I was extremely excited about getting him here and he showed us what he could do, even under a turd coach like Gruden...had led the team to a 6-2 start!

Look how bad the team was post-Smith that season. He's just a winner.
No. That was a horrible trade and even worse contract. I saw it immediately.
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Old 08-04-2020, 03:19 PM   #159
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Hard to say it was a bad contract IMO since he didn't get to play it out. He was considerably cheaper than Cousins. No way to predict a catastrophic injury.
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Old 08-04-2020, 03:26 PM   #160
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Hard to say it was a bad contract IMO since he didn't get to play it out. He was considerably cheaper than Cousins. No way to predict a catastrophic injury.
It was all mismanaged...Cousins maybe worse.
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Old 08-04-2020, 04:10 PM   #161
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Horrible trade and horrible contract. There were a good bit of us not happy with either. With Cousins leaving and our D bottom 3 in the league, I thought we should have accepted the reality we didnt have a winning roster and embrace a true rebuild for a few seasons.

But Bruce had to try and save his job by continually making DS think we were close.

Alex Smith got handed 71M in guarantees from Bruce.

But he low balled a better home grown option in Cousins. Cousins ended up getting 84M guaranteed.

Dnag yalll .... why are we opening these old wounds? I have almost completely forgotten how bad we screwed the Cousins-Smith thing.
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Old 08-05-2020, 08:44 AM   #162
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Cousins made it clear for 2+ years that he wasn't staying here for any amount of money. He fleeced the team with multiple franchise tags that prevented us from building around him. The "nice guy" was really all about himself and the money, not helping the team win. He thought the grass would be greener on the other side...now Vikings fans hate him too because he's just not worth what he's being paid.

Kirk has no business being anywhere near the highest-paid QB in the league, never did.

Smith was the best option at the time, no regrets here. Hitting on a draft pick, even in Round 1, is a crapshoot.

I think Haskins will have a good second year.
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Cousins made it clear for 2+ years that he wasn't staying here for any amount of money. He fleeced the team with multiple franchise tags that prevented us from building around him. The "nice guy" was really all about himself and the money, not helping the team win. He thought the grass would be greener on the other side...now Vikings fans hate him too because he's just not worth what he's being paid.

Kirk has no business being anywhere near the highest-paid QB in the league, never did.

Smith was the best option at the time, no regrets here. Hitting on a draft pick, even in Round 1, is a crapshoot.

I think Haskins will have a good second year.

He didn't want to play for Bruce anymore and you can't blame him..Also he just won the Vikings a huge road playoff win with the throw of his career in clutch. Have to give him props
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Old 08-16-2020, 09:53 AM   #164
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Alex Smith cleared by the Redskins for football activity.
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Happy for Alex, he has balls of steel
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