Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

Well then, this week should be interesting..

Oh, you know Bruce and Dan love the drama too. They believe, like Jerry Jones, even bad news is good because folks are talking about the team and the NFL.

But get ready for the DC media to go hard trashing everybody and stirring it up after the WS is over.



My question is this, how will Bruce trash Trent in leaks to the press? that train is never late

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Oh, you know Bruce and Dan love the drama too. They believe, like Jerry Jones, even bad news is good because folks are talking about the team and the NFL.

But get ready for the DC media to go hard trashing everybody and stirring it up after the WS is over.



My question is this, how will Bruce trash Trent in leaks to the press? that train is never late

I don't see it. Trashing Williams publicly could hurt his trade value, as well as damaging Redskins' image.

[MTK]

I don't buy the notion that TW's stock goes down just because he will have 1 year left on his deal vs 2. Anyone who trades for him will need to give him a new deal anyway, so it's a moot point.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by MTK

I don't buy the notion that TW's stock goes down just because he will have 1 year left on his deal vs 2. Anyone who trades for him will need to give him a new deal anyway, so it's a moot point.

Agreed. If anything, his stock may go up a bit. Trents has quite an injury history. He misses several games a year due to various injuries and then has played through several injuries that would have kept most other guys out. Assuming he's staying in shape and taking care of himself, I imagine taking an entire year off of football will have done a lot to help him get in healthier than he's been his entire career.

[SunnySide]

An accrued season is a season during which a player has been on a team’s roster for six or more regular season games.

- Players will receive an accrued season while on the team’s roster, receiving their full pay while on the active/inactive lists and injured reserve list.

- Players will not receive an accrued season while on the team’s practice squad, physically unable to perform (PUP), non-football injury (NFI), or the Exempt Commissioner Permission list.
https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/7/13/...nce-in-the-cba
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Trent needs to be on the Skins active, inactive or IR for 6 or more games to earn an "accrued" year.

What can Bruce do to keep him from earning an accrued season?

- Practice Squad? no, he would be eligible to be signed to another teams 53.
- Commish Exempt List? no, Trent hasnt done anything negative off the field. AP was placed on this for the child abuse charges while the league was deciding whether to suspend him or not. NFLPA filed a grievance on his behalf.

- NFI and PUP? Maybe. Are we entering Albert Haynesworth territory? Trent says he is healthy enough to practice but then "sprains an ankle" before kick off? Does he have to maintain a thin line of being healthy enough to practice but not healthy enough to play?

What stops the skins from putting him on PUP the second he complains of any minor thing?

Apparently, if Trent showed up for just one practice in the pre season and then held out, the Skins would not be able to put him on the PUP list this season.

"If a player practices during training camp, they are not eligible for the PUP list. Instead, the team has to cut the player or put them on injured reserve."
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/pup-list...njured-reserve

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

An accrued season is a season during which a player has been on a team’s roster for six or more regular season games.

- Players will receive an accrued season while on the team’s roster, receiving their full pay while on the active/inactive lists and injured reserve list.

- Players will not receive an accrued season while on the team’s practice squad, physically unable to perform (PUP), non-football injury (NFI), or the Exempt Commissioner Permission list.
https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/7/13/...nce-in-the-cba
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Skins placed TW on the NFI Reserve list. If the above is correct and he is on it the next two football games, I imagine that would prevent TW from accruing enough weeks to get the year to count.

Both sides are going full hardball at this point, and the Skins have by far the stronger leverage. Trent's next move is to simply retire.

[calia]

What a shit show -- all around. I am trying to think of another situation in which a popular, star player with so long a tenure with a team (playing through injury and otherwise showing leadership) had a beef with a team blow up like this. I just can't think of one.

Not absolving Trent of mishandling this, but man this sort of thing seems to happen to only one team.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by calia

What a shit show -- all around. I am trying to think of another situation in which a popular, star player with so long a tenure with a team (playing through injury and otherwise showing leadership) had a beef with a team blow up like this. I just can't think of one.

Not absolving Trent of mishandling this, but man this sort of thing seems to happen to only one team.

Antonio Brown (excluding the leadership part) but Steelers handled it brilliantly..

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Skins placed TW on the NFI Reserve list. If the above is correct and he is on it the next two football games, I imagine that would prevent TW from accruing enough weeks to get the year to count.

Both sides are going full hardball at this point, and the Skins have by far the stronger leverage. Trent's next move is to simply retire.

If that is correct, while hating that this drama will linger on, well played by this FO to still have 2 years on TW's contract to trade him this offseason. Plus after losing a full year of salary, TW might be willing to just get the heck out of here and play for another team without necessarily wanting a new contract immediately.
And that'll also help in trade negotiations.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Apparently it could cost him $6 mil, but I'm not sure it has any impact on an accrued season since he reported...but I can't find anything on that. That would be big, if there's still two seasons left on his contract.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Apparently it could cost him $6 mil, but I'm not sure it has any impact on an accrued season since he reported...but I can't find anything on that. That would be big, if there's still two seasons left on his contract.

The Skins put him on the NFI list, ending his season and he doesn't get the accrued season since he won't be on the active roster for week 10.

I'm sure he's gonna fight it but fuck him at this point. Just wish we had traded him already so we could have a spare pick and he'd be out of our hair. Instead we gotta talk about him until the new league year starts.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Apparently it could cost him $6 mil, but I'm not sure it has any impact on an accrued season since he reported...but I can't find anything on that. That would be big, if there's still two seasons left on his contract.

Its in the link that was quoted from Hog Haven. The NFI designation prevents TW from getting an accrued season.

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[MTK]

Need to be placed on PUP before training camp.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by MTK

Need to be on placed PUP before training camp.

Idk .. is it you have to be on the PUP list prior to TC or you cannot have practiced during TC. Practically speaking, I imagine it means the same thing in 99.99% of situations but here, Trent might be that unique case.

He might be PUP eligible. I really dont know. I am reading conflicting things every day as we get into the deep minut of the CBA ..that I dont think covers this situation directly.

Whats done is done, Im just going to sit back and watch it play out. Im Trent > Bruce but at this point, post trade deadline .... I really dont care too hard what happens now.

[Warthog]

We could have a draft pick to talk about, now we’re discussing how TW gets his year credit and doesn’t play for us. 19 out of 32 teams made trade deals this season. Most losing teams are being aggressive. BA and Snyder do nothing.

We’ll loss Scherff - he’s not even talking to us anymore. Another hole in the OL.


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