Sam Howell Traded

[mredskins]

Commanders get: 2024 third-round pick and 2024 fifth-round pick
Seahawks get: Howell, 2024 fourth-round pick, 2024 sixth-round pick

Commanders' grade: B
Seahawks' grade: B+

The Seahawks started the day with only Geno Smith under contract at quarterback. Now the Seahawks have a potential challenger to Smith as their starting QB.

A fifth-rounder in the 2022 draft, Howell played 17 games for the Commanders last season. In an odd twist, he netted one draft asset (No. 78 overall) that is higher than his original draft slot (No. 144).

After a red-hot start, Howell faded down the stretch before being benched for Jacoby Brissett, only to return to action after an injury to the veteran.

Howell ended the season with 21 touchdown passes to 21 interceptions, was sacked 65 times and completed 63.4% of his passes for a QBR of 42.4 -- No. 24 in the league. An offense marred by poor offensive line play and Howell's inexperience ultimately led to a complete regime change in Washington.

Now he's in Seattle, where new offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb may be looking to spice up the offense.

Smith, returning for his third season as Seattle's starter, was No. 23 in the league in air yards per attempt at 7.0 yards. Grubb, who comes to the Seahawks from the University of Washington, loves the deep ball. Interestingly enough, Howell's QBR of 98.2 on outside deep routes was fourth best in the league. Fun fact: Smith had the NFL's worst QBR in the same situations (2.6).

If Grubb plans to bring his three-wide, vertical offense from Washington to the Seahawks, Howell's deep ball touch and power are actually good fits.

For Washington, all signs should now firmly point to selecting a quarterback at No. 2 overall if they didn't already.

The Commanders signed veteran Marcus Mariota and have Jake Fromm on the roster. With the second overall pick in a draft that could potentially have four quarterbacks selected in the top 10, GM Adam Peters can go get his quarterback. And he now has some extra draft capital to build a team around that signal-caller, as this trade gives Washington six of the top 100 picks.

And maybe, just maybe, that's enough draft capital to entice Chicago to switch places so the Commanders can pick hometown quarterback Caleb Williams at No. 1 overall? -- Miller

[skinsnut]

This is what I think:
A full assessment of the top 3 QBs in the draft have been completed. The new FO is Rick solid on who they will pick at 2. They will not move up. They are completely sold on Maye or Daniels as our franchise QB.
Why do I suggest this?
If they weren't sure, and wanted to hedge their bets, they keep a cheap developmental piece in Howell. They traded him and signed a typical lame backup.
What about a trade up?
It is still possible, but if they weren't Rick solid on #2, no way they would have made those moves. If they are all chips in in #2, why would they trade Anything to go to #1, when we need 2 Tackles? Makes no sense.
For such a strategy as conservative with all the free agents signings, the Quarterback move was all chips in on #2. This is a high confidence move
An outrageous possibility would be they already have a vet trade tagged in writing for our QB starter, but that is hard to fathom.
So the good news here is, the new FO has done extensive homework and has no doubts who their next QB is, anything they say to the contrary is BS.
I am glad, but a bit scared

[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

This is what I think:
A full assessment of the top 3 QBs in the draft have been completed. The new FO is Rick solid on who they will pick at 2. They will not move up. They are completely sold on Maye or Daniels as our franchise QB.
Why do I suggest this?
If they weren't sure, and wanted to hedge their bets, they keep a cheap developmental piece in Howell. They traded him and signed a typical lame backup.
What about a trade up?
It is still possible, but if they weren't Rick solid on #2, no way they would have made those moves. If they are all chips in in #2, why would they trade Anything to go to #1, when we need 2 Tackles? Makes no sense.
For such a strategy as conservative with all the free agents signings, the Quarterback move was all chips in on #2. This is a high confidence move
An outrageous possibility would be they already have a vet trade tagged in writing for our QB starter, but that is hard to fathom.
So the good news here is, the new FO has done extensive homework and has no doubts who their next QB is, anything they say to the contrary is BS.
I am glad, but a bit scared

My dick gets rick solid every time I talk about Howell.

Sorry, couldn't let that autocorrect slide!

Things are even simpler than that.
Howell is the ex girlfriend that mom loved.
We will have a new love interest next month and don't need mom screwing up thanksgiving by comparing the ex to the new GF. Relationship is over.

Shular/Frerotte
RG3/Cousins

We can get a new side piece in the draft to go along with our top pick.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

This is what I think:
A full assessment of the top 3 QBs in the draft have been completed. The new FO is Rick solid on who they will pick at 2. They will not move up. They are completely sold on Maye or Daniels as our franchise QB.
Why do I suggest this?
If they weren't sure, and wanted to hedge their bets, they keep a cheap developmental piece in Howell. They traded him and signed a typical lame backup.
What about a trade up?
It is still possible, but if they weren't Rick solid on #2, no way they would have made those moves. If they are all chips in in #2, why would they trade Anything to go to #1, when we need 2 Tackles? Makes no sense.
For such a strategy as conservative with all the free agents signings, the Quarterback move was all chips in on #2. This is a high confidence move
An outrageous possibility would be they already have a vet trade tagged in writing for our QB starter, but that is hard to fathom.
So the good news here is, the new FO has done extensive homework and has no doubts who their next QB is, anything they say to the contrary is BS.
I am glad, but a bit scared

This is all well and good until some other team trades up to number one and picks the quarterback they are Rick solid on.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

This is all well and good until some other team trades up to number one and picks the quarterback they are Rick solid on.

I assume they're happy with at least 2 players, so it doesn't matter what happens at 1.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by That Guy

I assume they're happy with at least 2 players, so it doesn't matter what happens at 1.

Maybe, but all 3 of them are so different from each other. It doesn't make a ton of sense that they would just be happy to settle for whoever is there. It's possible, but I think I would rather them be locked in on one guy because he fits what they want to do.

Wish the draft was this weekend...

[Meks]

Definitely a bit scared.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Meks

Definitely a bit scared.

Why? He wasnt Brady

[Meks]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Why? He wasnt Brady

It's always gonna be unnerving as fans when your #2 pick has to ball out or you'll be fielding...... Marietta. Not enough return for Sam who I'd put out there over MM every day and twice on Sundays.

I don't think the hype is real ok these top 3 qbs, either, like most other years, qbs over drafted and over hyped.

Is what it is, hope for the best.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Meks

It's always gonna be unnerving as fans when your #2 pick has to ball out or you'll be fielding...... Marietta. Not enough return for Sam who I'd put out there over MM every day and twice on Sundays.

I don't think the hype is real ok these top 3 qbs, either, like most other years, qbs over drafted and over hyped.

Is what it is, hope for the best.

So if the Texans felt this way about CJ Stroud and Davis Mills they would have been called stupid right?

sounds like youre convincing yourself that Sam Howell is something he just isnt.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

So if the Texans felt this way about CJ Stroud and Davis Mills they would have been called stupid right?

sounds like youre convincing yourself that Sam Howell is something he just isnt.

There's only one way to find out and the franchise is ready to gamble. So be it hope for the best. They're paid to make these decisions, whether I agree or not doesn't matter but my gut says it's gonna be Rocky.

But here's to hoping

[simbosargos75]

Originally Posted by Meks

Definitely a bit scared.

nvm

[rocnrik]

i will say if they draft CW you won't hear anything from me .. i'll be elsewhere. Jamf hated Sam from day one ..and he can feel anyway he wants and voice it all he wants .. good for Jamf he has his convictions and stayed true !! i have same about CW and i don't care how well he plays .. i can't stand him and never will ! so i hope it's Daniels !

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

i will say if they draft CW you won't hear anything from me .. i'll be elsewhere. Jamf hated Sam from day one ..and he can feel anyway he wants and voice it all he wants .. good for Jamf he has his convictions and stayed true !! i have same about CW and i don't care how well he plays .. i can't stand him and never will ! so i hope it's Daniels !

If he comes in and wins ROY and we win 11 games you will change tune lol

[MTK]

After 17 games Sam got us to the #2 pick.

I wouldn’t be scared.