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Old 10-08-2019, 11:53 AM   #31
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Re: Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

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No arguing that point, but often a QB's great college stats can be meaningless due to the fact he is playing on a team that usually has a huge talent edge over opponents. Ohio State had 9 total players drafted and 6 of those were on offense. That number was only exceeded by Alabama having 10. How many USC quarterbacks put up great numbers in college only to fail in the NFL?

The numbers a player puts up in college do not dictate readiness to play in the NFL. Haskins poor footwork and needing work on protecting himself better doesn't need to be done while risking his confidence and health.
I look at each individual player. Haskins was the best player on that Ohio State offense last year. I still go back to you cannot tell me that Colt McCoy and Case Keenum at 0-5 with a lost season have more to gain from playing than Haskins does. Whether he is "ready" or not is poppycock, what rookie is 100% ready? The man needs to learn on the job to see what we have and Miami is the perfect team to do that against. What do we have to lose? Dropping to 0-6?????
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:32 PM   #32
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Re: Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

It just goes to show how delusional this organization is...they're still focused on "winning games" right now, like the season isn't lost and they are still in the playoff hunt. Case and Colt give the team the best chance to win against Miami...sure...but who cares? Maybe they realize that this game is the only possible one left to win so they don't go 0-16...because 1-15 is much better??? (rolls eyes) Maybe Haskins turns into something great, maybe they hire the coach that turns it around...but I'm not expecting either of those things to happen. 2 to 3 years from now we'll be doing this all over again.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:38 PM   #33
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Re: Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

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If we hadn't drafted Haskins with the 15 pick this year, just imagine the fan reaction.
I can't imagine it being any worst then it is now. If you as a nfl team are drafting solely on fan reaction well you end up with the quality of a team like the deadskins.
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Old 10-08-2019, 12:48 PM   #34
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Re: Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

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When we got Haskins at 15 everyone on this board was thrilled and we got As from most pundits. He's not coming along quickly. But it's also too soon to label him a bust.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:00 PM   #35
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Re: Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

Personally I wasn't thrilled with the Haskins pick, especially knowing it was Snyder's call.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:09 PM   #36
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Re: Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

I was excited just because it was something to be excited about. So little excitement here.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:12 PM   #37
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Heard too many experts say he wasn't going to be ready, plus 14 teams passed on him, several with QB needs. I recall Cooley being very lukewarm on him.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:13 PM   #38
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I think a lot of us were just happy they didnt trade a bundle to move up and get him. I was "fine" with the Haskins pick at 15.

Payne over Derwin James still pisses me off though. Compound the angts by giving an in the box Landon Collins 45M guar over the next 3 years. Collins seems to stay healthy though which can not be discounted.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:21 PM   #39
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I think a lot of us were just happy they didnt trade a bundle to move up and get him. I was "fine" with the Haskins pick at 15.

Payne over Derwin James still pisses me off though. Compound the angts by giving an in the box Landon Collins 45M guar over the next 3 years. Collins seems to stay healthy though which can not be discounted.
I won't judge the Landon Collins signing until I see what a better defensive coaching staff can get out of him. Manusky calls games like a pussy and schemes up the softest zones around. A coach with a more aggressive style could get a lot more out of Collins.
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Re: Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

The reason I prefer Haskins over both Keenum and McCoy is both the latter have played mediocre.....Keenum actually played okay during weeks 1 and 2 but regressed in weeks 3 and 4....McCoy meanwhile looked like some journeyman crap against New England.....unless Callahan feels the Redskins can make a push to the playoffs in the next 11 games, he should play Haskins otherwise.
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Old 10-08-2019, 01:48 PM   #41
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Haskins needs to be playing. We do not have a valid option in front of him. And it doesn't matter if he plays bad and loses. It's all about getting those experience points up.

Although I guess I'm not against waiting till the bye week as long as the plan is clear among the coaches and front office and Haskins is aware. Give him 2 weeks with the 1st team for a game against the Jets.
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Re: Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

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I won't judge the Landon Collins signing until I see what a better defensive coaching staff can get out of him. Manusky calls games like a pussy and schemes up the softest zones around. A coach with a more aggressive style could get a lot more out of Collins.
Collins played a hell of a lot better for the Giants, so I agree about Manusky but not putting him a place to succeed, that goes for the whole
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Re: Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

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When Jim Harbaugh took over in SF Manusky was canned and replaced with Fangio, the 49er defense went from 16th to 2nd pretty much utilizing the same personnel. What does that tell you?
But we are keeping Manusky right?

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Old 10-08-2019, 06:18 PM   #44
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Will the Current Treatment of HASKINS Effect His Tenure and Performance with the Redskins?

I’m calling the BS FLAG on the Haskins pick. Pundits throughout the NFL (who usually Hate the Redskins) gave this team an A or B+ for this draft. Lots of stories of the Redskins WINNING THIS DRAFT. Most LOVED the Haskins pick. He WAS NOT a “third round pick” as someone suggested. He had an outstanding record at a big college program. The risk was in his number of played games. But EVERY DRAFT PICK IS A RISK! A study showed that only a third of first and second round players are in the NFL five years later.

We used a #15 draft pick for him. He’s either going to work out or be the next in a long list of failed Redskins draft picks in the last 20+ years. Shuler, Campbell and RG3 as a few examples. This season is toast. Play him NOW and see what he’s got. It’s not magically going to get better for him next year. There have been very, very few modern QB, and I’m talking HOFer who did not struggle mightily in their first seasons. Haskins will also. But in the second and third year we truly find out if he’s franchise material or not. Cousins was the last QB we nurtured to a decent level. But he was pissed because he sat around waiting for the “perfect moment” to replace RG3 even though he was clearly a better QB.

Play Haskins and see what he’s got, because without a Franchise QB you can not win in the NFL. Will McCoy and Keenum even be in the team next year? Doubtful. Will they even be in the NFL next year? ALL the rookies on the team need reps to see if they’re players, not the vets who will be dumped in Jan with a new HC.


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Old 10-08-2019, 07:10 PM   #45
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But we are keeping Manusky right?

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