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09-09-2009, 01:55 PM | #16 | |
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Re: Langston Walker Cut:
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I'm not saying Langston Walker is a savior, but he's certainly better than Mike Williams. As a matter of fact, it hasn't been that long since they cut Mike Williams...hmmmm |
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09-09-2009, 01:57 PM | #17 |
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Re: Langston Walker Cut:
Still bitter over the Brohm backlash?
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09-09-2009, 01:58 PM | #18 |
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Re: Langston Walker Cut:
Maybe the ability to make roster moves is in Owens' contract.
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09-09-2009, 02:00 PM | #19 |
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Re: Langston Walker Cut:
Let's ask a few questions, is Walker going to be interested in a backup job? Also, is he interested in taking a cheap contract, because our cap room is pretty slim. For those reasons I think we're stuck with Williams for better or worse.
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09-09-2009, 02:16 PM | #20 | |
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-Many people never thought he'd make it down to the weight he did. -The biggest adjustment to the NFL from college is speed and depth of talent, it's going to take a few weeks of reps as the scout team against our 1st D to get MW back up to "speed". - MW & Dock are buddies since college. We bring in MW, he works his ass off and does everything asked of him, and then we cut him without him getting a shot to get completely back in game shape? I'd say that would affect Dock's mind-set. - Buges isn't an idiot. - What if, just what if, he returns to close to the player he was at TX. We'll have gotten one of the major steals of the off-season, possibly any off-season. If he doesn't make it back, what have we lost....nothing. Bridges isn't a significant upgrade anyway, if he was he'd still be here.
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09-09-2009, 02:25 PM | #21 | |
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09-09-2009, 02:27 PM | #22 | |
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I agree, and the points you make are the reason's he's here. |
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09-09-2009, 02:46 PM | #23 |
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Re: Langston Walker Cut:
What exactly have you seen from him to like, as far as helping this football team? All I know about Mike Williams is that he'd have a good chance of winning if he were on The Biggest Loser.
And I keep hearing "upside" and "potential", but those terms aren't usually applied to a player that was drafted seven seasons ago, and cut three seasons ago. |
09-09-2009, 02:48 PM | #24 |
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09-09-2009, 03:11 PM | #25 | |
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I already said I commend him for cutting the weight and I'm pulling for him, but if there's an upgrade available it should be made. Speed? The guy must never have adjusted because he's never been effective, even when he was in his prime. Dockery's feelings shouldn't have anything to do with keeping Williams on the team. I agree with you about Bugel, I think he can coach him up, but we didn't get much out of Heyer last year who is (presently) a far better football player than Mike Williams. If Bugel could turn everyone into great lineman, we wouldn't have gone downhill last year. There has to be more than just a body there, there needs to be a lot of talent to play RT at this level. Okay, that's a fair point. How likely do you think that is? And the counterpoint is obviously, "what if he doesn't?" What if he's a turnstyle like he was in Buffalo and Jacksonville? He was a first round pick who was cut after 4 season and 48 starts, he had one hell of a shot to make it in the NFL when it was far more likely that he would. He even signed on with Jacksonville after being cut and couldn't stay in the league then, there's nothing that suggest Mike Williams will be a "find." There is evidence he could be garbage. See: Mike Williams' career. |
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09-09-2009, 03:15 PM | #26 | |
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Everyone's reacting like I hate the guy. I hope he finds NFL success. I just don't care if it's in Washington. There are plenty of guys out there who can help this team. If Walker is better than him (I happen to think he is) then the Skins should go get him. Plain and simple. Tons of decisions like this happen everyday, this wouldn't be the first time a team gave up on a 29 year old with upside...actually, maybe it would, because 29 year olds generally have no upside, they've reached their potential and if Mike Williams reached his back in Buffalo, he's not worth keeping around while he works himself back in shape. |
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09-09-2009, 04:15 PM | #27 | |
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- MW was always seen as more of mauling run blocker, not a great pass-pro guy. Normally the LDE isn't going to have tremendous speed off the edge, although there are exceptions. - I agree Dock's feelings shouldn't really be taken into much consideration, but in reality it could have an effect and doesn't send a good message. Although the Patriots send some crappy messages to veteran players and they seem to be fine. - Maybe 40% at this point, but Buges should be able to make the determination by week 4 if MW is picking it up or not. If so, great, win. If not we don't take a cap hit and dump the guy for the best available player out there or bring back Bridges or one of the other released players. - I'm being optimistic, and hoping that this guy realizes what he was throwing away (his life, football) by his laziness. Hopefully his newfound work ethic will pay off for him and the Skins. You're right the evidence points to the opposite, but I'm relying on Buges' 30+ years of experience to be able to determine this is the right move.[/quote]
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09-09-2009, 10:41 PM | #28 |
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I've watched the 2nd half of the Jax game on my DVR just in order to watch MW. He's nothing special except this years Burgandy & Gold biggest loser. And I mean that in the nicest way!
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09-09-2009, 10:49 PM | #29 |
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Re: Langston Walker Cut:
I think he pushed the DE's back on a straight head to head, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in on short ydge or goal line pushes this year.
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09-10-2009, 06:20 AM | #30 | |
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I would like to add, Walker would have to come at the right price, knowing there's no competition, he's the backup. Like Matty said before, we don't know that he'd take that, but those would be the conditions under which I'd pursue him. |
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