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Old 01-20-2017, 12:32 PM   #61
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With RG3 at least we got a division title out of it. Shuler just couldn't play.
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Old 01-20-2017, 12:43 PM   #62
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Taking the player's performance in a vaccuum I agree Schuler was the bigger flop, but the fact that we gave up so much to get RG3 makes him a bigger disaster for us.
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Hooker has outstanding ball skills, as well.


Chico beat me to it. Just wanted to say this was the all time most enticing comment to ever quote.
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Old 01-20-2017, 01:16 PM   #64
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I don't know about other teams worst, except the Chargers and Ryan Leaf. But RG3 was our worst draft pick ever. We would be so much better if we had just stood pat, drafted Cousins or Wilson, and used all those other picks in the RG3 trade.



Even not considering the trade, the RG3 pick was an all-time bust.


It cannot be an all time bust because he led us, almost single handily, to a division crown. You can never take that away.
Yes though when you consider what it cost us, and what he has done since - it was certainly a bust.
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Old 01-20-2017, 02:48 PM   #65
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Chico beat me to it. Just wanted to say this was the all time most enticing comment to ever quote.
I should have realized that what I was posting could be taken another way.
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Old 01-20-2017, 06:22 PM   #66
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Taking the player's performance in a vaccuum I agree Schuler was the bigger flop, but the fact that we gave up so much to get RG3 makes him a bigger disaster for us.
Agree 100.

The loss of talent in the traded picks, and the wasted pick on RGIII, that would probably be on the roster right now, and probably in the front 7 is huge.

That along with effect the salary cap penalty had on the middle of the roster can't be overstated.
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Old 01-20-2017, 10:19 PM   #67
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No no no the magic of that season before the game I won't mention was freaking awesome and makes Schuler the way way way worse pick. Him and Fatassworth's signing are the 2 worst things I can remember as a Skins fan.
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We beat Cowboys on Thanksgiving in Dallas with Bob. That was one of the top 10 sports moments of my life.
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Old 01-21-2017, 08:29 AM   #69
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We beat Cowboys on Thanksgiving in Dallas with Bob. That was one of the top 10 sports moments of my life.
The final game against Dallas was dven better. When they played HTTR at the end and MNF filmed the whole song, that was one of the top sports moments of my life.
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Old 01-25-2017, 01:25 PM   #70
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After watching the major bowl games, I came away a fan of any Defender from LSU, Clemson & Alabama. LSU's D simply suffocated Louisville in that bowl game.

I've been reading the Great Blue North site lately Great Blue North Draft Report - Covering The NFL Draft. Anyway, after the obvious choices (round 1/2),it's tough to know where the gems are.

Here are a couple names they had listed in areas where I thought they could be immediate upgrades...

HENRY LANGI/LB/DE/BYU 6’3/249 #16 This do-everything defender may be a riser as we get into All-Star game action and Combine/Pro Day workouts. BYU had a Top 10 rushing Defense this season and the versatile LANGI played a big part in that work. He split time this season as a LB, and a pass-rusher with his hand on the ground. He is not a superior athlete, but he is a highly productive player with a clearly high FBI. He absolutely covered the field in BYU’s win over Wyoming in the Holiday Bowl. He was dropping into coverage, rushing the passer and, of course, stuffing the Cowboys rushing attack. He finished the night with 16 tackles, to match his uniform number, including 1 TFL. He’s big enough to take on blockers and runners at the point of attack, but also does an excellent job dropping into shallow/medium coverage. Watch for his name in the next 4 months. I just have a notion he will make some noise as a fairly early 3rd Day draftee prospect.

ADAM BUTLER/DL/VANDERBILT 6’4/300 #69 One of seemingly many DL in this years prospect group who plays the DL with high energy and good intelligence, He is also versatile, as he showed all season and in the Independence Bowl against NC State. He played DT in a standard 4-3 scheme, but moved out to DE in a 3-4 set in passing downs. Vandy was able to use the two different sets interchangeably, in great part because BUTLER was strong enough to play inside on the one hand, but also athletic enough to generate some pocket pressure when moved outside in the DE spot. He showed a very effective and smooth inside-reverse pass rush spin on a couple of occasions. He was credited with 7 tackles in the Bowl match-up. Vandy is not known for great defensive players, but I have a feeling this young man may just rank as draftable, albeit late, by teams looking for versatility and depth along their defensive fronts. Teams like the PACKERS & PATRIOTS come to mind.
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This is my top 17 choices if we stay at 17, meaning I'd pick them in this order. This is assuming we keep Cousins. If for any reason he leaves, Watson jumps to the top of the list:

1. Myles Garrett
2. Dalvin Cook
3. Jonathan Allen
4. Malik Hooker
5. Reuben Foster
6. Teez Tabor
7. Solomon Thomas
8. Caleb Brantley
9. Malik McDowell
10. Taco Charlton
11. Quincy Wilson
12. Zach Cunningham
13. Takkarist Mckinley
14. Cordrea Tankersley
15. T.J. Watt
16. Marshon Lattimore
17. Derek Barnett

Note - the only reason Jamal Adams wasn't included is that he projects as a SS and we are moving Cravens there.
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Old 01-25-2017, 11:55 PM   #72
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This is my top 17 choices if we stay at 17, meaning I'd pick them in this order. This is assuming we keep Cousins. If for any reason he leaves, Watson jumps to the top of the list:

1. Myles Garrett
2. Dalvin Cook
3. Jonathan Allen
4. Malik Hooker
5. Reuben Foster
6. Teez Tabor
7. Solomon Thomas
8. Caleb Brantley
9. Malik McDowell
10. Taco Charlton
11. Quincy Wilson
12. Zach Cunningham
13. Takkarist Mckinley
14. Cordrea Tankersley
15. T.J. Watt
16. Marshon Lattimore
17. Derek Barnett

Note - the only reason Jamal Adams wasn't included is that he projects as a SS and we are moving Cravens there.
Solid list. Here is a list of prospects that I like:

First Round:
1. Solomon Thomas
2. Deshaun Watson (he would be my first if Cousins does not return)
3. Malik Hooker
4. Reuben Foster
5. Taco Charlton
6. Cam Robinson

Second round and beyond:
1. Caleb Brantley
2. Carlos Watkins
3. Carl Lawson
4. Cordrea Tankersley
5. Dede Westbrook
6. Charles Walker
7. Dorian Johnson
8. Malachi Dupre
9. Wayne Gallman
10. Samaje Perine
11. Noah Brown
12. Josh Harvey-Clemons
13. Antonio Garcia
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Old 01-26-2017, 11:59 AM   #73
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If we trade Cousins my hope would be for #2 pick, exchange second round picks (34) and get their 5th. It we can do that then I would draft the following

2. Jonathon Allen DE Alabama
17. Budda Baker FS Washington
34. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
3rd. Pick Kareem Hunt RB Toledo

No Trade
17. Solomon Thomas
2nd Round Justin Evans S Texas A&M or Marcus Williams FS Utah
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Old 01-26-2017, 12:29 PM   #74
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If we trade Cousins my hope would be for #2 pick, exchange second round picks (34) and get their 5th. It we can do that then I would draft the following

2. Jonathon Allen DE Alabama
17. Budda Baker FS Washington
34. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
3rd. Pick Kareem Hunt RB Toledo

No Trade
17. Solomon Thomas
2nd Round Justin Evans S Texas A&M or Marcus Williams FS Utah

mock drafts have Soloman Thomas all over the place from top 5 to #17 to the Redskins
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Old 01-26-2017, 04:54 PM   #75
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If we trade Cousins my hope would be for #2 pick, exchange second round picks (34) and get their 5th. It we can do that then I would draft the following

2. Jonathon Allen DE Alabama
17. Budda Baker FS Washington
34. Raekwon McMillan ILB Ohio State
3rd. Pick Kareem Hunt RB Toledo

No Trade
17. Solomon Thomas
2nd Round Justin Evans S Texas A&M or Marcus Williams FS Utah
Thats not enough of a return for Cousins, throw in another first if you want us to even listen
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