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Old 01-21-2021, 10:42 AM   #1
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To 2021 and Beyond .... current politics

Just an idea but lets start a fresh political thread to discuss current 2021 politics and beyond. This would mean No Trump Talk bc we are all obsessed with him and even if he is mentioned in passing .. this thread will just turn into one of the many Trump political threads.

So with that said, no trump talk ... lets just discuss anything current. And I fully assume this thread will get very little posts or just morph into an trump trump trump bitch sessions.

Ha! I just said Trump 6 times in 4 sentences I dedicated to no Trump talk. Well now 8 times if you count this last portion.

If we stick to just current politics .. I imagine this thread will get very little play. And I am more than okay with that, boring politics from boring politicians.

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Biden signs executive actions on COVID, climate change, immigration and more

By Bo Erickson

January 21, 2021 / 6:41 AM / CBS News

On his first day in office, President Joe Biden signed more than a dozen executive actions, some of which reverse decisions made by his predecessor, former President Donald Trump.

Several executive actions will make changes to the U.S. response to COVID-19 and try to ease some of the financial strain on Americans resulting from the pandemic. Other executive actions directly target and undo Mr. Trump's actions on the environment, immigration, the U.S. census, and regulatory changes.

Mr. Biden signed three executive orders in the presence of reporters — implementing a mask mandate on federal property, increasing support for underserved communities and rejoining the Paris climate accord.

"I thought there's no time to wait. Get to work immediately," he said.
Biden Inauguration

Mr. Biden said Mr. Trump had left a letter for him, which he described as "very generous," but said he wouldn't divulge the contents. "Because it was private, I will not talk about it until I talk to him, but it was generous," he said.

Incoming top Biden White House advisers outlined and described the executive actions on a press call Tuesday evening, and Biden aides also promised there would be more to come.

"In the coming days and weeks we will be announcing additional executive actions that confront these challenges and deliver on the President-elect's promises to the American people, including revoking the ban on military service by transgender Americans, and reversing the Mexico City policy," incoming White House press secretary Jen Psaki said in a statement.

Below is CBS News' breakdown of Mr. Biden's first 15 executive orders and the two executive actions he was expected to signed on Wednesday:

COVID-19 response

Start a "100 Days Masking Challenge," calling for a nationwide face mask and social distancing mandate in federal buildings, on federal lands and by federal employees and contractors.

Restructure federal government coordination to the COVID-19 pandemic. The Biden White House is bringing back an Obama-era position called the "Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense," which was organized with additional staff within the National Security Council after the 2014 Ebola epidemic. This directorate office was dispersed into other roles during the Trump administration, but Biden and his campaign advisers argued the move decreased the preparedness of the federal government for the COVID-19 pandemic. Mr. Biden will also formally implement a "response coordinator" who will report to the president on vaccine, testing and personal protective equipment production, supply, and distribution. Mr. Biden has appointed Jeff Zients, who has been overseeing Mr. Biden's COVID-19 team for the presidential transition.

Rejoin the World Health Organization (WHO), which the Trump administration was in the process of leaving. Mr. Biden is also looking to reestablish the U.S. as an active leader at the WHO.
Financial relief for Americans

Extend eviction and foreclosure moratoriums. To do this, Biden will call on the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to re-implement and extend the already defunct moratorium until at least March 31. The new president will also call on the Departments of Agriculture, Housing and Urban Development, and Veterans Affairs to extend the foreclosure moratoriums for their federally backed mortgages. "These emergency measures are important," Mr. Biden's top economic adviser Brian Deese said on the call with reporters, "There are more than 11 million mortgages guaranteed by the VA, Department of Agriculture and HUD that would be extended."

Continue "pause" on student loan payments until September 30. The Biden advisers continue to assert Biden still supports his campaign pledge to cancel $10,000 of student loans, but this will take time as it has to go through Congress.
Environment

Rejoin the Paris Climate Agreement. The Paris climate negotiations took place under the Obama administration and were led by incoming climate change czar John Kerry when he was secretary of state. This will take 30 days to go into effect.

End Keystone XL pipeline and revoke oil and gas development at national wildlife monuments. To do this, Biden's climate adviser Gina McCarthy explained the Biden administration will discard or redo more than 100 "harmful" presidential proclamations, memoranda or permits signed by the Trump administration that the new administration views as detrimental to the environment.

Revoking permits will effectively nix the Keystone pipeline. Mr. Biden also will reverse the 2020 decision by the Trump administration to allow land development at the Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante national monuments in Utah and at the Northeast Canyons and Seamounts Marine national monuments in New England, which were set aside for wildlife protection by former President Obama in 2016. Other changes include directing agencies to "consider revising vehicle fuel economic and emissions standards" and placing federal working groups to deal with greenhouse gases, according to an outline of the executive orders.
Human rights

Actions to advance racial equity through the federal government. Incoming Domestic Policy Adviser Susan Rice explained President Biden wants every federal agency to review equity in their programs and actions. For example, with this executive action the Office of Management and Budget will analyze if federal money is equitably distributed in communities of color and other places of need, the outline of the executive action said. Rice also said Trump's "harmful" 1776 Commission, the 18-member board he formulated in September, will be stopped. The commission's goal was to study the president's concern that the American education system was taking a too liberal approach to American history.

Count non-citizens in U.S. Census again. This reverses President Trump's order in July 2020 to not count undocumented Americans, which would affect federal allocation of money and federal representation. Rice on the Wednesday press call said Trump's was an "approach that violates the Constitution and the Census Act and is inconsistent with our nation's history and our commitment to representative democracy." The Biden team's outline of the executive order said Biden "will ensure that the Census Bureau has time to complete an accurate population count for each state" and that "he will then present to Congress an apportionment that is fair and accurate so federal resources are efficiently and fairly distributed for the next decade."

Strengthen workplace discrimination protections based on sexual orientation and gender identity. At agencies, this broadens the federal protections against sex discrimination to include LGBTQ Americans.
Immigration

Defend "Dreamers" program for undocumented young Americans. Mr. Biden, in this executive order, calls on Congress to grant permanent status and a path to citizenship to Dreamers — almost a million undocumented young people who were brought to the country as children and shielded from deportation by President Obama. The Trump administration challenged the law but the Supreme Court upheld it.

End so-called "Muslim travel ban," which in 2017 restricted travel and immigration to the U.S. from Syria, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen, before adding Eritrea, Nigeria, Myanmar, Kyrgyzstan, and Tanzania in 2020. The State Department is also instructed to restart visa applications for these countries.

Change Trump's arrest priorities for Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). This executive order will repeal the changes Mr. Trump made in the first week of his presidency in 2017 to make interior immigration enforcement much stricter. Few specifics were listed in the outline of the executive order, but the incoming Biden White House team stated the Department of Homeland Security, in partnership with other agencies, will "set civil immigration enforcement policies that best protect the American people and are in line with our values and priorities."

Stop border wall construction. Mr. Biden will end the national emergency declaration cited by the Trump administration to divert money to the building of the southern wall.

Keep protections for a group of Liberians in the country. Liberians who have been in the United States for many years will be able to remain longer. Their "deferred enforcement departure" will be extended an additional year, until June 30, 2022. President Trump briefly considered ending this deferment before ultimately extending the program.
Regulation

Freezing last-minute Trump administration regulatory actions. Technically, White House chief of staff Ron Klain will be charged with carrying out this out, and a presidential memo will formally state the regulations to be frozen.
Ethics

Formulate Executive Branch ethics doctrine. Mr. Biden wants every executive branch appointee to sign an ethics pledge. The pledge also demands federal employees promise "to uphold the independence of the Department of Justice," the executive order outline states.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-s...rders-day-one/
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stop border wall -- i think we should reinforce/build walls where objective border patrol people think we need a wall or deterrence.

keystone pipeline - i honestly dont know enough of the real pro and con issues. I lean heavily towards protecting our national parks and land from oil leaking pipes that only fill the coffers of already rich oil men (who are probably owned by China or the ME anyway).

count non-citizens in census -- the plain language of the census was to always count all persons not just all citizens. This effects how federal money is allocated and (how the house of reps is proportioned off?). the push to not include illegals seemed very political partisan to me.

mask mandate in federal buildings -- how was this not a thing all along?
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stop border wall -- i think we should reinforce/build walls where objective border patrol people think we need a wall or deterrence.

keystone pipeline - i honestly dont know enough of the real pro and con issues. I lean heavily towards protecting our national parks and land from oil leaking pipes that only fill the coffers of already rich oil men (who are probably owned by China or the ME anyway).

count non-citizens in census -- the plain language of the census was to always count all persons not just all citizens. This effects how federal money is allocated and (how the house of reps is proportioned off?). the push to not include illegals seemed very political partisan to me.

mask mandate in federal buildings -- how was this not a thing all along?
+1 I don't disagree with any of this.
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Some of these...



But I'm going to try and keep my mouth shut and let Biden have his 1st 100 or so days.

As a token of good will and saving myself the absolute guarantee of arguing all day, every day, I'm shelfing my Biden enough is enough thread idea I originally said I was going to start today a while back.

In general, I'm going to try not to let politics gets me so frustrated, pissed, etc. anymore. Arguing about politics is just running in a circle and chasing your tail. Yet, somehow, it's still so hard for me to resist.

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But I'm going to try and keep my mouth shut and let Biden have his 1st 100 or so days.

As a token of good will and saving myself the absolute guarantee of arguing all day, every day, I'm shelfing my Biden enough is enough thread idea I originally said I was going to start today a while back.

In general, I'm going to try not to let politics gets me so frustrated, pissed, etc. anymore. Arguing about politics is just running in a circle and chasing your tail. Yet, somehow, it's still so hard for me to resist.

page one of the Original Enough is Enough.

http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=63898
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Old 01-21-2021, 01:09 PM   #6
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https://babylonbee.com/news/due-to-s...ampaign=buffer

Space Force Carries Out Coup, Trump Declared President Of Space

Back on Earth, Trump declared it a “perfect military coup” to the press and added, “I guess in space, they take elections more seriously. That’s why I’m still president there.” Trump then noted that space is way bigger than the Earth, which is “small and dumb,” thus making him a “much more important president than Biden.”

For now, though, Trump planned to stay on Earth, as that’s the only place with McDonald’s.

Totally hear trump saying that
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Space Force Carries Out Coup, Trump Declared President Of Space

Back on Earth, Trump declared it a “perfect military coup” to the press and added, “I guess in space, they take elections more seriously. That’s why I’m still president there.” Trump then noted that space is way bigger than the Earth, which is “small and dumb,” thus making him a “much more important president than Biden.”

For now, though, Trump planned to stay on Earth, as that’s the only place with McDonald’s.

Totally hear trump saying that


Oh my god, the McDonalds line had me rolling. Fantastic.
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Really surprised masks are not already required but it sounds like they are expanding to lands?

Revoking permits for Keystone is smart IMO. Current pipelines aren't at capacity so it is building pipelines for the sake of pipelines. FERC guarantees pipelines builders 14% profits for first five years. That is a ridiculous subsidy. In addition project financers don't have to pay federal taxes.

Paris-Good first step lets get with the rest of the developed world on this

Border wall-I am conflicted here

Muslim Ban-Not sure a pandemic is best time to remove travel restrictions, but I get from a political move it probably "had" to be done.
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Travel ban...was it a Muslim ban when Obama and Biden restricted travel from the same countries?

If we travel back to the previous Biden and Obama administration, this country was under attack from domestic and foreign Islamic terrorist routinely

Looking back at the trump administration, he ended those attacks as well as defeating ISIS...he kept us safe.

He left office with the Middle East normalizating relations with Israel. Think about that.

The Middle East is as stable as it’s been in my lifetime...to say the strategies didn’t work by the trump administration is simply incompetence
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As we can track the Paris agreement, folks should Google the science magazine and National Geographic articles as most countries aren’t in compliance. The evidence and science behind is loose at best

It’s completely a symbolic accord to make people feel good. Glad folks are feeling better about it
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I'm all in with the democratic agenda. Fairweather politico here, I was a republican, now I am a democrat, (but I'll still call myself a republican for those who want me to)

Most of you will think this is sarcasm or condescension but it's not. Fact is, the SC was the main thing a Republican President needed to do, and with a constitutionally minded court, it is time to re-visit and correct a LOT of the social sins of the past. Including legalizing drugs (at least marijuana), correcting the law through the Legislative branch (not SC or executive) to address the rights of the LGBTQ community, create a living wage society, and reduce the size of our military.

The democrats have two solid years to put plans in place that capitalize on having control of the executive and legislative branches, and many many more to execute those plans. I look forward to the shining country we surely will become.
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I'm all in with the democratic agenda. Fairweather politico here, I was a republican, now I am a democrat, (but I'll still call myself a republican for those who want me to)

Most of you will think this is sarcasm or condescension but it's not. Fact is, the SC was the main thing a Republican President needed to do, and with a constitutionally minded court, it is time to re-visit and correct a LOT of the social sins of the past. Including legalizing drugs (at least marijuana), correcting the law through the Legislative branch (not SC or executive) to address the rights of the LGBTQ community, create a living wage society, and reduce the size of our military.

The democrats have two solid years to put plans in place that capitalize on having control of the executive and legislative branches, and many many more to execute those plans. I look forward to the shining country we surely will become.
I know you're saying it's not but man this reads 100% like it is. Especially the last line. Cred you ok? Blink twice if Chico is holding you hostage.
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I know you're saying it's not but man this reads 100% like it is. Especially the last line. Cred you ok? Blink twice if Chico is holding you hostage.
There was probably some sarcasm but I really am fine

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