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Old 10-30-2019, 10:40 AM   #16
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

I don't buy the notion that TW's stock goes down just because he will have 1 year left on his deal vs 2. Anyone who trades for him will need to give him a new deal anyway, so it's a moot point.
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Old 10-30-2019, 10:55 AM   #17
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I don't buy the notion that TW's stock goes down just because he will have 1 year left on his deal vs 2. Anyone who trades for him will need to give him a new deal anyway, so it's a moot point.
Agreed. If anything, his stock may go up a bit. Trents has quite an injury history. He misses several games a year due to various injuries and then has played through several injuries that would have kept most other guys out. Assuming he's staying in shape and taking care of himself, I imagine taking an entire year off of football will have done a lot to help him get in healthier than he's been his entire career.
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An accrued season is a season during which a player has been on a team’s roster for six or more regular season games.

- Players will receive an accrued season while on the team’s roster, receiving their full pay while on the active/inactive lists and injured reserve list.

- Players will not receive an accrued season while on the team’s practice squad, physically unable to perform (PUP), non-football injury (NFI), or the Exempt Commissioner Permission list.
https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/7/13/...nce-in-the-cba
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Trent needs to be on the Skins active, inactive or IR for 6 or more games to earn an "accrued" year.

What can Bruce do to keep him from earning an accrued season?

- Practice Squad? no, he would be eligible to be signed to another teams 53.
- Commish Exempt List? no, Trent hasnt done anything negative off the field. AP was placed on this for the child abuse charges while the league was deciding whether to suspend him or not. NFLPA filed a grievance on his behalf.

- NFI and PUP? Maybe. Are we entering Albert Haynesworth territory? Trent says he is healthy enough to practice but then "sprains an ankle" before kick off? Does he have to maintain a thin line of being healthy enough to practice but not healthy enough to play?

What stops the skins from putting him on PUP the second he complains of any minor thing?

Apparently, if Trent showed up for just one practice in the pre season and then held out, the Skins would not be able to put him on the PUP list this season.

"If a player practices during training camp, they are not eligible for the PUP list. Instead, the team has to cut the player or put them on injured reserve."
https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/pup-list...njured-reserve
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:03 AM   #20
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Need to be placed on PUP before training camp.
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

We could have a draft pick to talk about, now we’re discussing how TW gets his year credit and doesn’t play for us. 19 out of 32 teams made trade deals this season. Most losing teams are being aggressive. BA and Snyder do nothing.

We’ll loss Scherff - he’s not even talking to us anymore. Another hole in the OL.


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Old 10-30-2019, 11:13 AM   #22
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Need to be on placed PUP before training camp.
Idk .. is it you have to be on the PUP list prior to TC or you cannot have practiced during TC. Practically speaking, I imagine it means the same thing in 99.99% of situations but here, Trent might be that unique case.

He might be PUP eligible. I really dont know. I am reading conflicting things every day as we get into the deep minut of the CBA ..that I dont think covers this situation directly.

Whats done is done, Im just going to sit back and watch it play out. Im Trent > Bruce but at this point, post trade deadline .... I really dont care too hard what happens now.
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:14 AM   #23
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Scherff can be tagged. He's said he wants to be here so we'll see.
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Old 10-30-2019, 11:18 AM   #24
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I think BA puts TW on the non football injury list for the next 3 weeks and then lets TW try and appeal

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How do they know Trent has no plans on playing?
Why report only to say you aren't going to play and jeopardize your accruing a season?
All TW needs to do is report, fall down on the first block and say he got hit in the head. no one in the league is going to challenge concussion like symptoms.

This TW not playing bullshit is probably leaked by the team.
Everyone is this organization is a scorned ex girlfriend.
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

Trent: "My back is a little stiff, cant practice today."

Bruce: "Non football injury list!"

Trent: "Im feeling better actually .. its a miracle! I can walk!"

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Oh, you know Bruce and Dan love the drama too. They believe, like Jerry Jones, even bad news is good because folks are talking about the team and the NFL.

But get ready for the DC media to go hard trashing everybody and stirring it up after the WS is over.



My question is this, how will Bruce trash Trent in leaks to the press? that train is never late
I don't see it. Trashing Williams publicly could hurt his trade value, as well as damaging Redskins' image.
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Old 10-30-2019, 12:04 PM   #28
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How do they know Trent has no plans on playing?

Why report only to say you aren't going to play and jeopardize your accruing a season?

All TW needs to do is report, fall down on the first block and say he got hit in the head. no one in the league is going to challenge concussion like symptoms.



This TW not playing bullshit is probably leaked by the team.

Everyone is this organization is a scorned ex girlfriend.
JP Finlay reported it right after the report that TW reported to the Redskins. Finlay has been solid on his reporting of this.

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Old 10-30-2019, 12:32 PM   #29
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Re: Trent Williams ends season-long holdout, rejoins Redskins

The Redskins are like a scorned spouse. Bitter at their wife/ husband for wanting out and decide to drag out a divorce for as long as possible. That's pure Dan and Bruce.
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How do they know Trent has no plans on playing?
Why report only to say you aren't going to play and jeopardize your accruing a season?
All TW needs to do is report, fall down on the first block and say he got hit in the head. no one in the league is going to challenge concussion like symptoms.

This TW not playing bullshit is probably leaked by the team.
Everyone is this organization is a scorned ex girlfriend.



haha.. this is exactly what I said and I didn't even see your post. Hilarious!
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