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Old 11-04-2021, 03:20 PM   #31
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You're totally misunderstanding it.

No teams are in constant season long evaluation mode. They are always prepping for the next opponent. Once they review the game film from the previous week, which coaches usually do on Mondays, it's on to the next week and prepping for that game. Nobody has the time to pour over game film from week 1 when you're getting ready for a week 9 game. Should they be prepping for the draft now too?

It isn’t about going back to week one during week 9. Hopefully you did your week one work back than. The statement he made is a very blanket statement. “We haven’t evaluated anything from first 8 weeks”. Huh? Even if Ron somehow made me understand that statement it falls directly under things u dont say when you are as bad and seemingly unprepared as we are.
I know that the primary focus during the season is the upcoming game after Mondays film session but Matty you are telling me as a HC that is it? You are not evaluating your team as you go? Not thinking about roster moves, or changes, or anything else? It rings extremely oblivious to me.
I want a HC who is constantly evaluating his team. Constantly looking at strengths and weaknesses and dead weight and free agents and everything all the time. Ron has plenty of time to plan for the upcoming game while evaluating the team. Im sorry if he doesn’t than gtfo.
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Old 11-04-2021, 03:25 PM   #32
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It isn’t about going back to week one during week 9. Hopefully you did your week one work back than. The statement he made is a very blanket statement. “We haven’t evaluated anything from first 8 weeks”. Huh? Even if Ron somehow made me understand that statement it falls directly under things u dont say when you are as bad and seemingly unprepared as we are.
I know that the primary focus during the season is the upcoming game after Mondays film session but Matty you are telling me as a HC that is it? You are not evaluating your team as you go? Not thinking about roster moves, or changes, or anything else? It rings extremely oblivious to me.
Non issue. You're twisting this to feed into your dislike for him. Plenty of things worth criticizing, this is silly. When they watch the previous week's games as they go, that's evaluating the first 8 weeks.

He's saying they haven't done a complete evaluation of the "season so far" overview. A mid term review so to speak. The same thing they do at the end of the season when the coaches all get together and evaluate the season as a whole.
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Old 11-04-2021, 03:31 PM   #33
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Non issue. You're twisting this to feed into your dislike for him. Plenty of things worth criticizing, this is silly. When they watch the previous week's games as they go, that's evaluating the first 8 weeks.

He's saying they haven't done a complete evaluation of the "season so far" overview. A mid term review so to speak. The same thing they do at the end of the season when the coaches all get together and evaluate the season as a whole.

I think you are twisting this to feed your fondness for him. If Gruden had said this you would have simply said
“Go figure” or “this fuckin guy”. Lol

I dont need this simple statement to convince myself or others Ron is not a good coach. His losing seasons speak volumes about that.

This statement is just the cherry on top. Like I said, when your team is never prepared and you continually say things like “we need to figure stuff out” well than this is going to draw some attention. At the very very least you have to admit this isn’t the best possible thing u can utter at this point. Im obviously not on an island here. When he does get around to evaluating this team I suggest he takes a long hard look in the mirror.
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Old 11-04-2021, 03:35 PM   #34
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The whole thing sounds out of context.

Does anyone really think even our phatic organization isn't evaluating as the season is rolling along?

Apparently this board not only thinks that is the case but it is the proper way to do things. Lol. Everyone can call me a Ron hater. Im a big boy. We all wanted/want him to succeed. But he was fired for a reason- losing, and will be fired again for losing. It sucks. Sometimes the truth sucks.
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Apparently this board not only thinks that is the case but it is the proper way to do things. Lol. Everyone can call me a Ron hater. Im a big boy. We all wanted/want him to succeed. But he was fired for a reason- losing, and will be fired again for losing. It sucks. Sometimes the truth sucks.
We do reviews all the time at work. There is different levels.

The evaluation i believe Ron be referring too we would call in my office as a "deep dive"; we even have "atomic deep dives" which literally make my eyes roll out of my head.

Those dives are done quarterly or bi yearly. Otherwise we are reviewing data and moving along.
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We do reviews all the time at work. There is different levels.

The evaluation i believe Ron be referring too we would call in my office as a "deep dive"; we even have "atomic deep dives" which literally make my eyes roll out of my head.

Those dives are done quarterly or bi yearly. Otherwise we are reviewing data and moving along.
This 110%.

Nobody has time for deep dive evaluations on a weekly basis. It's what the bye week is for.
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Old 11-04-2021, 03:49 PM   #37
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Have we talked about Chase Roullier's injury?

When we cut Keith Ismael (2020 5th rounder) in favor of 30 year old Tyler Larsen I had to talk myself into liking it thinking we are trying to win this year and if Chase gets hurt, we decided to go short term w the 30 year old vs long term with the youngster.

Ismael was signed back to our active roster today so I guess no harm no foul.

Glad we get to keep him but its a red flag the entire league said "nah" to adding him.
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It isn’t about going back to week one during week 9. Hopefully you did your week one work back than. The statement he made is a very blanket statement. “We haven’t evaluated anything from first 8 weeks”. Huh? Even if Ron somehow made me understand that statement it falls directly under things u dont say when you are as bad and seemingly unprepared as we are.
I know that the primary focus during the season is the upcoming game after Mondays film session but Matty you are telling me as a HC that is it? You are not evaluating your team as you go? Not thinking about roster moves, or changes, or anything else? It rings extremely oblivious to me.
I want a HC who is constantly evaluating his team. Constantly looking at strengths and weaknesses and dead weight and free agents and everything all the time. Ron has plenty of time to plan for the upcoming game while evaluating the team. Im sorry if he doesn’t than gtfo.
Dude of course they are constantly evaluating. Have they not made any roster moves this year? Those are there result of evaluating. Watching film is a constant evaluation process.
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I think you are twisting this to feed your fondness for him. If Gruden had said this you would have simply said
“Go figure” or “this fuckin guy”. Lol

I dont need this simple statement to convince myself or others Ron is not a good coach. His losing seasons speak volumes about that.

This statement is just the cherry on top. Like I said, when your team is never prepared and you continually say things like “we need to figure stuff out” well than this is going to draw some attention. At the very very least you have to admit this isn’t the best possible thing u can utter at this point. Im obviously not on an island here. When he does get around to evaluating this team I suggest he takes a long hard look in the mirror.
If Gruden had said the same thing I'd have the same reaction, because I understand what he's saying.
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Have we talked about Chase Roullier's injury?

When we cut Keith Ismael (2020 5th rounder) in favor of 30 year old Tyler Larsen I had to talk myself into liking it thinking we are trying to win this year and if Chase gets hurt, we decided to go short term w the 30 year old vs long term with the youngster.

Ismael was signed back to our active roster today so I guess no harm no foul.

Glad we get to keep him but its a red flag the entire league said "nah" to adding him.
Feels like 2017 again with all the OL injuries piling up. A line can only take so much. Feels like we're getting to the breaking point now with Chase out.
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Should have everyone back but Chase after the bye right?
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Feels like 2017 again with all the OL injuries piling up. A line can only take so much. Feels like we're getting to the breaking point now with Chase out.
Bergstrom time.
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Apparently Rivera is not trying out any kickers during the bye week. Wants to stick with Blewitt and give him time. For what? To see if he can get enough air under the ball to clear the crossbar? Wow. How in the hell are u not trying out any kicker who will try out?
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Apparently Rivera is not trying out any kickers during the bye week. Wants to stick with Blewitt and give him time. For what? To see if he can get enough air under the ball to clear the crossbar? Wow. How in the hell are u not trying out any kicker who will try out?
C.R.A.Z.Y.

So either cutting Hopkins was about sending a some sort of weak message to the locker room... But now what message does keeping a guy obviously unable to do his job send ?!

Or it was simply about trying to improve the position... In which case they are the worst kicker evaluating staff in sports history...

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