Still Don't get why Move Orakpo to LB

Pocket$ $traight · 08-31-2009, 03:49 PM

Taking Cushing over Orakpo should not be acknowledged. Barring injury Orakpo will be in the running for DROY.

The Cowboys have plenty of their own problems. They looked decent against the Titans but have looked pretty sorry in their other games.

dmvskinzfan08 · 08-31-2009, 03:52 PM

I was thinking the other day that move to draft him and switch him to a hybrid type player probably was because of Demarcus Ware & Shawn Merriman (plus our need for DE adn the upside of this pick). He has the same skill sets. But I think another small factor that played into it was making sure we can stop big backs like Jacobs. I can't wait to see Orakpo go head to head with Jacobs. Will be awesome!!

Jay Schroeder · 08-31-2009, 03:53 PM

I cant wait to see Jacobs and Fat Albert go head on

FRPLG · 08-31-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Orakpo is versatile enough to play both positions so he plays both positions. I really don't care where he plays so long as we use him to get pressure on the QB.

Pretty much how I feel. He was the best talent at our spot and we need to him to stay on the field on all downs. So he gets to play SLB until its a clear passing down. It's the best use of his talent. He'd be wasted trying to stop the run anyways.

saden1 · 08-31-2009, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Pretty much how I feel. He was the best talent at our spot and we need to him to stay on the field on all downs. So he gets to play SLB until its a clear passing down. It's the best use of his talent. He'd be wasted trying to stop the run anyways.

You know what I'm saying? I actually think he's pretty good at sniffing out a run and going after the ball carrier. He's a pretty strong fella too and you can't simply push him around like any other tweener type DE.

Lotus · 08-31-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

We drafted two linebackers. The reason he is out there is because he can handle it. You think the Redskins are better with Andre Carter on the bench the whole game? I have wondered why they haven't let Carter play some LB but it really doesn't matter.

Orakpo will be fine at LB and gets better at LB with every snap. I have been thinking how we will cover Witten. We may not have an answer at the moment but what team does?

San Fran tried that and it turned out that he was better with his hand down.

JLW428 · 08-31-2009, 04:48 PM

I think Orakpo could be a decent LB but it is clear that his true tallent shines when he is on the line pass rushing.

Pocket$ $traight · 08-31-2009, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

San Fran tried that and it turned out that he was better with his hand down.

I know, just like Orakpo is better with his hand down. I guess the dropoff from Orakpo to Carter on the line is less then Carter to Orakpo as LB.

Btw. I predict Carter and ARE gone next year. Orakpo probably won't have to play LB after this year and between Kelly, Thomas and M&M we can dump that hideous contract.

GMScud · 08-31-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by saden1

You know what I'm saying? I actually thing he's pretty good at sniffing out a run and going after the ball carrier. He's a pretty strong fella too and you can't simply push him around like any other tweener type DE.

No kidding. During the Steelers game I rewound that play over and over when he bull rushed #66 and had him airborne. Dude outweighs Rak by about 50 lbs and he just straight rag-dolled him. He's got some serious power. I think he'll be fine against the run.

mooby · 08-31-2009, 05:56 PM

Honestly I think the reason the Skins are playing Orakpo at both linebacker and DE is to cover two holes with one player. I think next offseason they'll go after a LOLB to play that spot full time and then move Orakpo to DE full time, and keep Orakpo listed as a backup at olb if the starter gets injured or something. I think they might not have enough confidence in the backup guys we have playing OLB to insert one of them in there as the full time starter.

For now though the plan is to play Orakpo at outside linebacker on rushing downs and play him at defensive end on third downs. Then he can learn the best of both positions while also getting enough pt at DE to play that full time next season.

Or I could be wrong and they think he'll really be a standout outside linebacker/pass rusher.

Lotus · 08-31-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

Hey Guys I watch your game this week and I still don't get why your team is trying to move him to OLB in the 4-3. Orakpo looked good when he was playing as a down lineman but looked completely lost when he was used as a LB specially in coverage.

Why draft a Player with HUGE pass rushing skills and use him as a cover LB... why not draft a LB then.

You forget that when he blitzes from the linebacker position, he likely will have a running back or tight end blocking him, which is a huge advantage for Rak. In this Rak's scenario is much like another rusher who also sometimes plays in coverage who you may have heard of: DeMarcus Ware.

saden1 · 08-31-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

No kidding. During the Steelers game I rewound that play over and over when he bull rushed #66 and had him airborne. Dude outweighs Rak by about 50 lbs and he just straight rag-dolled him. He's got some serious power. I think he'll be fine against the run.

I believe he had 19 tackles for a loss as a senior which isn't an easy feet.

diehard · 08-31-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

Hey Guys I watch your game this week and I still don't get why your team is trying to move him to OLB in the 4-3. Orakpo looked good when he was playing as a down lineman but looked completely lost when he was used as a LB specially in coverage.

Why draft a Player with HUGE pass rushing skills and use him as a cover LB... why not draft a LB then.

Ware can't cover either. Now what?

DBUCHANON101 · 08-31-2009, 09:30 PM

IMO as a DE on the passrush he would be limited except for an occasional stunt. As a OLB he can move around and get more favorable matchups on the rush. ie being blocked by TE's and backs instead of OT's.

SmootSmack · 08-31-2009, 09:31 PM

It's not unprecedented to take a pass-rushing DE out of college and see him have a great career as a linebacker.

For example, the NCAA all-time sacks leader who played DE at college and just retired after over 12 years as a linebacker

Agree with saden though, he needs to be on the field as often as possible. No matter what position he plays

08-31-2009, 03:49 PM	#16
Pocket$ $traight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fairfax, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,261	Re: Still Don't get why Move Orakpo to LB Taking Cushing over Orakpo should not be acknowledged. Barring injury Orakpo will be in the running for DROY. The Cowboys have plenty of their own problems. They looked decent against the Titans but have looked pretty sorry in their other games.

08-31-2009, 03:52 PM	#17
dmvskinzfan08 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 968	Re: Still Don't get why Move Orakpo to LB I was thinking the other day that move to draft him and switch him to a hybrid type player probably was because of Demarcus Ware & Shawn Merriman (plus our need for DE adn the upside of this pick). He has the same skill sets. But I think another small factor that played into it was making sure we can stop big backs like Jacobs. I can't wait to see Orakpo go head to head with Jacobs. Will be awesome!! __________________ HTTR 09 - RIP#21 HATERS << Misery Loves Company

08-31-2009, 03:53 PM	#18
Jay Schroeder Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 114	Re: Still Don't get why Move Orakpo to LB I cant wait to see Jacobs and Fat Albert go head on

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JLW428 Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Rockville, MD Posts: 422	Re: Still Don't get why Move Orakpo to LB I think Orakpo could be a decent LB but it is clear that his true tallent shines when he is on the line pass rushing.

08-31-2009, 05:56 PM	#25
mooby Hug Anne Spyder Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 20,306	Re: Still Don't get why Move Orakpo to LB Honestly I think the reason the Skins are playing Orakpo at both linebacker and DE is to cover two holes with one player. I think next offseason they'll go after a LOLB to play that spot full time and then move Orakpo to DE full time, and keep Orakpo listed as a backup at olb if the starter gets injured or something. I think they might not have enough confidence in the backup guys we have playing OLB to insert one of them in there as the full time starter. For now though the plan is to play Orakpo at outside linebacker on rushing downs and play him at defensive end on third downs. Then he can learn the best of both positions while also getting enough pt at DE to play that full time next season. Or I could be wrong and they think he'll really be a standout outside linebacker/pass rusher.

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DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: Still Don't get why Move Orakpo to LB IMO as a DE on the passrush he would be limited except for an occasional stunt. As a OLB he can move around and get more favorable matchups on the rush. ie being blocked by TE's and backs instead of OT's. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

08-31-2009, 09:31 PM	#30
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Still Don't get why Move Orakpo to LB It's not unprecedented to take a pass-rushing DE out of college and see him have a great career as a linebacker. For example, the NCAA all-time sacks leader who played DE at college and just retired after over 12 years as a linebacker Agree with saden though, he needs to be on the field as often as possible. No matter what position he plays __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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