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Old 04-04-2018, 12:07 AM   #31
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I did not realize what a special athlete Derwin James is. The guy easily double pumps reverse dunks in hoops all day, has huge leaping ability, with really great football instincts. His tackling is rock solid. He can play FS or SS.
At 6' 3" he will fill in and be a big center fielder. Can play in the slot.
He is fast 4.4 in the 40. I was watching him return kick offs and he has another gear he kicks into and out runs everyone.
I think he's going to be an NFL star. He's one of those special players the Skins might not be able to pass up in order to trade down. Of course, the Skins management may not agree with us.
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Old 04-04-2018, 02:03 AM   #32
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I think he's going to be an NFL star. He's one of those special players the Skins might not be able to pass up in order to trade down. Of course, the Skins management may not agree with us.
Seminoles to Redskins, I can dig it. Next Chris Thompson. He can play deep or drop down and play slot/cover TEs. Would definitely be a solid pick if he falls to 13.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:40 AM   #33
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I think he's going to be an NFL star. He's one of those special players the Skins might not be able to pass up in order to trade down. Of course, the Skins management may not agree with us.

It is insane that a special athlete and talent like Derwin James might be available to us at 13. Because all of the QB desperate teams are going to reach and probably bust with QB's that really are not rated top 5 athletically.
It is sad, but in our case a good thing that the glamour positions like QB take all of the headlines.
IF we take need completely out of our draft process Derwin might be our man.
I was watching clips of his tackling and he is incredibly disciplined. Text book. He does it old school, the way you are taught. But that kind of detail is missed in today's NFL. Sacks, Interceptions and big hits behind the line is all you see on defensive players highlight reels.
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Old 04-04-2018, 09:47 AM   #34
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I did not realize what a special athlete Derwin James is. The guy easily double pumps reverse dunks in hoops all day, has huge leaping ability, with really great football instincts. His tackling is rock solid. He can play FS or SS.
At 6' 3" he will fill in and be a big center fielder. Can play in the slot.
He is fast 4.4 in the 40. I was watching him return kick offs and he has another gear he kicks into and out runs everyone.
Yea. He is special and will probably be long gone.

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Old 04-04-2018, 12:03 PM   #35
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

Who I want: Fitzpatrick or trade down

Best guess: Vea or Payne

Worst case: Guice anywhere in the first 20 picks
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Old 04-05-2018, 11:38 AM   #36
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Todd McShay, Mel Kiper agree: Vita Vea makes sense for Redskins - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN
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Old 04-05-2018, 12:49 PM   #37
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Re: With the 13th Pick the Washington Redskins select...

My hope is that the Redskins sign Hankins in FA so they'll have another piece in place before they draft. Then we could fill another position instead of DL in the first round.

If they don't sign Hankins, Vea would be nice although I would take Payne over Vea.

I love Kiper's pick of Penny in the second round. I think he's going to be a star in the NFL. I would take him over Guice because I think Guice will get hurt due to his reckless running style. Don't get me wrong - I admire Guice's total effort on every play. I just think he's going to get hurt.

Of the players who are likely to be available at #13, I would love to have one of the following: Da'Ron Payne, Roquan Smith, and Derwin James.
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Old 04-05-2018, 12:59 PM   #38
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My hope is that the Redskins sign Hankins in FA so they'll have another piece in place before they draft. Then we could fill another position instead of DL in the first round.

If they don't sign Hankins, Vea would be nice although I would take Payne over Vea.


Of the players who are likely to be available at #13, I would love to have one of the following: Da'Ron Payne, Roquan Smith, and Derwin James.
I agree to take Payne over Vea. Vea played only 62% of the defensive downs, Payne is a 3 down player.
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:06 PM   #39
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I don't think signing Hankins necessarily precludes us from drafting either of them. I mean:

Allen, Ioannidis, Lanier, Hankings, Payne/Vea could possibly be the best defensive line rotation in the NFL.

Not saying this is my preference but I certainly wouldn't be opposed to it.
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Old 04-05-2018, 05:28 PM   #40
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I don't think signing Hankins necessarily precludes us from drafting either of them. I mean:

Allen, Ioannidis, Lanier, Hankings, Payne/Vea could possibly be the best defensive line rotation in the NFL.

Not saying this is my preference but I certainly wouldn't be opposed to it.
What if you sign Hankins and you have Derwin James or Fitzpatrick sitting there at 13? That would be my preference
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What if you sign Hankins and you have Derwin James or Fitzpatrick sitting there at 13? That would be my preference
I would be ecstatic to get either one of them and would prefer that then what I mentioned. I'm a Noles fan so give me James of the 2.

But there are way worse things than stacking the d line to the hilts.

I would be perfectly happy to double dip as well.

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Old 04-06-2018, 10:42 AM   #42
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My guess is first choice will be either Fitzpatrick or James, if both are not available then Payne.
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Old 04-06-2018, 10:43 AM   #43
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My guess is first choice will be either Fitzpatrick or James, if both are not available then Payne.
Can't go wrong with adding to the secondary
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Old 04-06-2018, 11:31 AM   #44
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If we don't get Vea or Payne, then we need to pay up and make sure we bring in Hankins.

This is the year to get a true NT stud.
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If we don't get Vea or Payne, then we need to pay up and make sure we bring in Hankins.

This is the year to get a true NT stud.
Doesn't the Hankins deal need to be done prior to the draft?
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