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Old 01-28-2019, 08:20 AM   #16
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Re: Alex Smith to miss 2019 Season

This really sucks for Smith. I have read several stories about Smith and based on the stories, I would assume Smith is not giving up on coming back, or at least not yet.. We might as well move forward as if Smith will never play again although, I would love for us to keep Smith in QB room to mentor our next rookie QB. Andy Reid and Mahomes kept mentioning Smith and how big role he played in mentoring Mahomes when people asked Andy and Mahomes about their success this season.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:38 AM   #17
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I am sure this was talked about, buried in some thread somewhere, but I do not want to go looking for it. What is the cap implications if Smith retires say at the most opportune time for the Redskins, say after 6/1/2019 or what is the best case scenario? Has this been talked about?
The Redskins have no real options to deal with Alex Smith's 2019 salary
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:58 AM   #18
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Agreed! I honestly don't think that Alex Smith will be coming back. I agree! The Offense did seem to move more smoothly with Colt McCoy at the helm. My personal opinion is that due Salery Cap reasons and insurance reasons Alex Smith will sit out the 2019 Season and then wait to retire just before the start of the 2020 Season.

Either way, the Redskins organization will be taking a Cap Hit

But if I understand what was said in another thread a few months ago, it will be a bit less of a Cap Hit in 2020 instead of Alex Smith retiring in 2019. If I am incorrect in any way, please, anyone chime in and please explain.

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I believe your statement to be accurate. That is because after the end of year 3 of his contract, all guaranteed monies ($71 million) would have been met already.

Cap hits (Source https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingt...ex-smith-3337/)
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:32 AM   #19
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Re: Alex Smith to miss 2019 Season

No options here:

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington...hs-2019-salary
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:07 AM   #20
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Old 01-28-2019, 11:52 AM   #21
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Re: Alex Smith to miss 2019 Season

Honestly, I don't even care about the cap situation. That leg injury is so fucked up that I just want the guy to be able to live the rest of his life normally. Hopefully he doesn't have long term consequences from this. Not like we're winning the super bowl in the next 2 years anyways. Time to start stockpiling young talent and hoping we can be competitive in 2 or 3 years. Next year is probably a lost cause.
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Old 01-28-2019, 02:41 PM   #22
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Re: Alex Smith to miss 2019 Season

Too bad for Smith, always hate to see a career end this way.

The organization will move on assuming he won't come back I'd assume. I'm guessing we go after an established QB in FA since Gruden won't have the time to groom and deal with the ups and downs that come with a rookie QB. Unless he wins this year he has to know he's finished in DC.

As much as I disagree with it, I expect the team to mortgage the future and try to get some talent in the door in an effort to get us to the playoffs so he can salvage his job. Expect us to be competitive in the top 3-5 QBs on the market along with other players along with a lot of reworked contracts to open up cap space. I really hate the concept, but that's what you get with lame duck coaches that don't have a strong GM pulling the trigger on personnel decisions.
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Old 01-28-2019, 03:23 PM   #23
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Re: Alex Smith to miss 2019 Season

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I am sure this was talked about, buried in some thread somewhere, but I do not want to go looking for it. What is the cap implications if Smith retires say at the most opportune time for the Redskins, say after 6/1/2019 or what is the best case scenario? Has this been talked about?
There is no difference between a player retiring and a player being cut from a cap stand point. Only difference is a player that is cut, can sign with another team.

If a player 'un-retires' he stays with his parent team until he is traded, or, cut.

For Smith: If he is on the roster on 3/17/2019, his 2020 salary is fully guaranteed. If he is released before that day and designated a post 6/1 release, he will count $21.5 million against the cap. Even if he retires, it does not change the cap hit.

The most economical would be to release him in his final year. But, due to his current health, that option is not practical.

It looks like to me that the best balance of cap and dead would be to release Smith in 2020 and designate him a post 6/1 release. That is the end of his third year and all guaranteed money of $71m has been paid.

By releasing him near the end of the 2020 league year and designating him a post 6/1 release, the cap hit play out like this:

2020 Dead Cap: $5,400,000
2021 Dead Cap: $10,800,000
2020 Cap Savings: $16,000,000

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https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washingt...ex-smith-3337/
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Old 01-28-2019, 06:22 PM   #24
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Re: Alex Smith to miss 2019 Season

Wasn't sure where to post this, but I thought this would be at least an entertaining idea: Rumor is that the Bengals will probably dump Dalton this offseason (or try to trade him) and, separately, rumor is that the Bengals want Bill Callahan. If they just want to dump him, would you "trade" Callahan for Dalton?

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I don't see Dalton going anywhere unless the Bengals jump up in the draft. He's been a good QB for them

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Old 01-28-2019, 07:58 PM   #26
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Re: Alex Smith to miss 2019 Season

This was floating around twitter. What do u guys think

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Old 01-28-2019, 09:13 PM   #27
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There is no chance they trade for Dalton. They cannot afford to pay $40 million on QBs.

They can better spend money on a long term Brandon Scherff contract. And a few moderate priced free agents. S, OL, etc.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:20 PM   #28
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Hard pass on Red Rocket.
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Old 01-28-2019, 09:49 PM   #29
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The max upside with Dalton is around 8 or 9 wins. No thanks. I don't want a QB that is just going to keep us competitive. We're just going to tread water w/ Dalton.
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:03 PM   #30
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Re: Alex Smith to miss 2019 Season

I don't want Dalton either, might as well have Kirk back. Both are about the same. Good QBs that cant win tough games

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