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Old 12-16-2020, 12:37 PM   #1
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Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?

I'm lost does Ron not want to give Kyle credit or something? That's what it feels like. Anyway imagine if Kyle leaves to build up another team, and Ron takes a step back. If Kyle becomes more successful with another team (McVay etc) wonder if Snyder will blame Rivera for not retaining Smith. Then firing him in year four or whatever if the WFT go backwards.
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Old 12-16-2020, 12:57 PM   #2
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Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?

I'm not sure I see any problem with that article with regard to Smith/Rivera. Sounds like Rivera is clearly giving Smith and the scouting department credit for finding good players, but that the Coaches also get a big say in whether or not the players will fit with the scheme, culture, etc. It's a team effort, and that is the way it should work. It's only been less than a year, and a crazy year at that, but I haven't seen anything suggesting that they don't work well together. I wouldn't get too excited about anything in that article.
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Old 12-19-2020, 02:29 AM   #3
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What happens with Kyle Smith?

I hope Rivera doesn’t let Kyle Smith go. It is AMAZING the talent that Kyle has pulled out of the dregs of the draft and UDFA. Most teams are VERY HAPPY to get one or two special team’s guy(s) out of a year’s UDFA and draft picks below the fifth round. Smith is finding very good, STARTING players, some in their ROOKIE YEAR, from those same low spots. McLaurin was a third round pick and he’s a team superstar.

The Snyder era has seen the owner and his untalented GM’s (Allen & Cerrato) make one bone-headed personnel decision after another. The team has drafted players with their top picks and these guys didn’t even make it out of training camp THAT YEAR. The team traded away really high draft picks for FA they could have got for nothing.

We haven’t had such a outstanding judge of talent since Bobby Bethards of the Gibb’s era, over 30 years ago!! If Rivera doesn’t make Smith the GM, Kyle will be offered such a position for a lot of money by another team!! And he’s worth it! Make him the GM and watch this team grow!


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Old 12-21-2020, 09:27 AM   #4
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Panthers fired their GM. What are the chances Rivera brings him in?

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Are you referring to future Football Team GM Marty Hurney?

Because the more I read the more I think it's inevitable Ron brings in a guy he's known for a long time.
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Old 12-25-2020, 11:11 AM   #7
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Are you referring to future Football Team GM Marty Hurney?

Because the more I read the more I think it's inevitable Ron brings in a guy he's known for a long time.
I think you are right.

The lack of commitment to Smith when RR speaks of him with his close relationship and history with Gurney points to Gurney being hired over Smith.

Keim interviewed the ESPN carolina reporter about Hurney. Goes in depth on his ability as GM and his ties with RR:

https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aH...IzNWY3NTYxZDA1
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I think you are right.

Combining the lack of commitment to Smith when RR speaks of him with his close relationship and history with Gurney, indicates we're headed that way.

Keim interviewed the ESPN carolina reporter about Hurney. Goes in depth on his ability as GM and his ties with RR:

https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aH...IzNWY3NTYxZDA1
I heard the podcast the other day. Kyle Smith has done in 3 years of drafting what Hurney has in 14 years, enough said. If Rivera wants to be stupid and lose Smith, let him. Anyone can see what Smith has done in a short amount of time.
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It's possible.
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Old 12-25-2020, 12:16 PM   #10
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Re: What happens with Kyle Smith?

I believe the issue isn’t Smith’s drafting or talent evaluation, it’s his inexperience with the rest of the duties of the GM position.
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I believe the issue isn’t Smith’s drafting or talent evaluation, it’s his inexperience with the rest of the duties of the GM position.
I’m sure he’s learned quite a bit from his GM father over the years.
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I’m sure he’s learned quite a bit from his GM father over the years.
One could say knowledge and experience are two different things. Also, from what I’ve heard about his dad’s tenure as GM...learning from him may not be a positive. 🤷*♂️ We’ll see. I’ve learned over the years not to stress over this stuff since we have no control over it.
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One could say knowledge and experience are two different things. Also, from what I’ve heard about his dad’s tenure as GM...learning from him may not be a positive. 🤷*♂️ We’ll see. I’ve learned over the years not to stress over this stuff since we have no control over it.
Actually his dad did a decent job in Buffalo and SD, he was better than Hurney.
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Actually his dad did a decent job in Buffalo and SD, he was better than Hurney.
Also heard he was a grade A ass as well. We will see how it all plays out. Ron knows what he’s doing IMO. I know on other boards people seem to forget the Panthers were a mess and he took them to 15-1 and a Super Bowl.
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Old 12-26-2020, 12:01 AM   #15
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I’m sure he’s learned quite a bit from his GM father over the years.
That's not a given.

It's obvious Kyle Smith's eye for talent isn't the issue here, it's him being young and having minimal experience handling those other GM duties.
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