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I havent had time to look up the official rules, but the summary page doesnt really help in debating the nuances of the rules; which is why i created this thread since the NFL seems to use nuances of rules when fining or cracking down on big time hits.
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You got anything to back that up, or quotes from people who have said that? Im not trying to be a dick, and i get that keeping your head up can prevent injury to yourself but im not so sure about a opposing player. For this Robinson hit i think the rule is complete bs, thats what i dont like about it. I would support making it a penalty for a QB to lead a receiver into a hit, but I don’t think id support making zone coverage illegal. Would you support either?
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09-22-2011, 11:21 AM | #36 | |
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I don't think there's an easy answer to all this, otherwise the NFL would already be doing something different. They want to make the game safer and also keep it entertaining. For all the gripes about this sort of stuff, it sure isn't hurting the ratings. Until it does, I don't think much is going to change. |
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09-22-2011, 12:31 PM | #38 | |
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09-22-2011, 01:09 PM | #39 | |
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Im pretty certain the helmet to helmet rule is for any tackle. Also im pretty sure that a WR can only be touched during a catch or immediately after a catch as long as they are not considered defenseless. So a WR being trailed closely from behind by a CB or LB can get hit as soon as he catches the ball. However a WR running in the direction of a CB or LB cannot be touched until they are running AND they are also in a position to defend themselves. Maclin caught the ball and was running and even made a attempt to avoid contact, however; since his catch was made in front of Robinson he was ultimately in a defenseless position. Robinson techniqely couldn’t do anything, but would of likely gotten away with a arm or whiff type tackle if he tried. If i was a offensive coordinator i would be designing plays that would put a WR in a defenseless position after a catch when certain zones coverages are used. Youd be foolish not to. Theoretically the WR shouldn’t get touched and if he does its 15 yards from the spot of the foul even if he drops the catch. Its troubling in my opinion that offensive coordinators have that opportunity. So I put pretty certain and pretty sure above in italics because ive searched hard and cant find the definition of these rules anywhere. Anyone have them or know where to get them? This a HUGE part of the problem......
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the helmet to helmet rules apply to defenseless players only i think (players with ball who havent established themselves as runners) as to qbs you cant hit them at the knees or below if you have an unobstructed path (seems real vague to me), you cant touch their head/helmet with any part of your body and im still trying to figure out if you cant lead with your helmet anywhere on a qb. ps - the rules for defenders is almost impossible for them to comply with all the time, the game is just too fast, players move/lower their head at the last second before impact changing where the defender's intended point of impact . . . its just become impossible really.
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i looked at nfl.com, the rule books, digest and surprising found nothing explaining it or laying out the exact language of the rule. . . im sure it is some where . .probably an espn artilce detailing the news rules and emphasis.
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Despite the ticky tack fouls as you say, I'm still watching, you're still watching, and so are millions of others. So how much impact do these fouls really have on the so called integrity of the game?? |
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Not sure anyone remembers this....In a pre season game a Jacksonville rookie hit Chad Johnson. Clean hit, Johnson even said so after the game. Not only was it a god awful call but the guy got fined and he hadn't even made the team yet. I think the guy ended up making the practice squad but he still has to pay this big fine and it was a large part of his salary. If this isn't ruining the integrity of the game then I don't know what is....the essence of what defensive football is all about....getting a big hit and trying to seperate the offensive player from the ball.
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I'm just asking you a question. Does it bother you when you see a ticky tack call that could potentially have impact on a game?
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