Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread

Dirtbag59 · 06-23-2011, 09:29 PM

PG - John Wall - Shelvin Mack
SG - Jordan Crawford - Nick Young
SF - Vesely - Singleton - Evans
PF - Blatche - Lewis - Kevin Seraphin
C - McGee - Booker

9 out of 12 players in this projection drafted by the Wiz. The Caps model is in full effect.

Red = This years picks
Blue = Last Years picks

Longtimefan · 06-23-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

I'm glad I was wrong and that he fell to us. Singleton at 18 eases my Vesely pain...

The Wizards will be able to appreciate Singletons's defensive abilities.

Scouting Report:

Singleton is considered one of the best defenders in the draft, but a late-season injury might cause him to fall to the end of the first round or possibly even into the second. Singleton, who has good speed for his size, averaged team highs of 13.1 points, 6.8 rebounds and 2.0 steals as a junior for Florida State in 2010-11, and was an all-ACC third-team selection. He ended his career as the only player in school history to rank in the top 10 in steals (eighth with 180) and blocked shots (fourth with 136). Singleton was the ACC defensive player of the year in 2009-10 as a sophomore and just missed repeating this past season, but a broken right foot caused him to miss the final five games of the regular season. He returned for the NCAA tournament but wasn't much of a factor, averaging 7.0 points, 4.3 rebounds and 33.3 percent shooting in 19.0 minutes as the Seminoles advanced to the regional semifinals. Singleton is a solid shooter when his feet are set, but he has a hard time scoring off the dribble, and the foot injury will raise additional questions about his offensive effectiveness. Although he may not develop into much of a scoring threat in the NBA, Singleton could succeed in the pros on the strength of his defensive instincts and ability.

Dirtbag59 · 06-23-2011, 10:49 PM

Don't know a lot about Shelvin Mack but he went to Butler so based on that I feel good about the pick.

PLAYER EVALUATION
Projection Los Angeles Lakers
(No. 41 Pick)

Positives
Shooter with deep range
NBA body
Deceptive quickness
Strong leadership qualities
Solid ball handler and passer
Strong guard

Negatives
Is he a point guard or a two guard?
Lacks elite level explosiveness
Inconsistent jump shot

Notes
Mack has declared for the 2011 NBA Draft. He will hire an agent, ending his college eligibility.

itvnetop · 06-24-2011, 03:19 AM

Did our Euro just say that "Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely"? Easy there, J-Swag.

itvnetop · 06-24-2011, 03:28 AM

I'm intrigued by the Mack pick... It would be great if he turned out to be a Kyle Lowry-type perimeter defender.

I'll just have to warm up to Vesely some time... Wall's got athletes that can run with him now. With Singleton on board, we're building a defensive presence too.

Dirtbag59 · 06-24-2011, 05:44 AM

One more year of sucking should yield us one more high lottery pick and complete the team.

Dirtbag59 · 06-24-2011, 05:53 AM

More on Jan's Girlfriend. Video: Jan Vesely and Eva Kodouskova are the cutest thing ever - Ball Don't Lie - NBA*Blog - Yahoo! Sports

For anyone wondering she's 6'3.

mredskins · 06-24-2011, 08:32 AM

I am pumped about the Celtics pick. Been watching Brooks for awhile at PC and he is a gamer.

mredskins · 06-24-2011, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mredskins

I am pumped about the Celtics pick. Been watching Brooks for awhile at PC and he is a gamer.

Never mind they trade him late last night, that sucks.

Longtimefan · 06-24-2011, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itvnetop

I'm intrigued by the Mack pick... It would be great if he turned out to be a Kyle Lowry-type perimeter defender.

I'll just have to warm up to Vesely some time... Wall's got athletes that can run with him now. With Singleton on board, we're building a defensive presence too.

The term "alley oop" will now take on a whole new dimention with Vesely at the 3 and McGee at the 5 running the floor with John Wall. Defenses' will have their hands full protecting the rim. I agree....Singleton and Mack both excellent defensive players.

Providing the fanbase continue to exhibit patience, I envision the Wizards being more than just an afterthought in a few years. I admire the way they're going about their business after the break-up.

Monkeydad · 06-24-2011, 10:39 AM

Great picks. Vesely....GREAT pick. I was hoping they'd pick Mack when I saw he was still there. Singleton should be a solid player too. Not a star, but solid.

Nice draft. Building a bright future after the housecleaning.

Monkeydad · 06-24-2011, 10:44 AM

Also, Derrick Williams > Kyrie Irving.

The Cavs blew it. Irving is unproven (11 games in college?) and possibly NOT a team player. When he came back, he played well...and his team lost, looking horrible.

Irving is talented, but not #1-pick talented. Derrick Williams is a better player in my opinion. I may have even taken Brandon Knight over Irving. I just think there's too much risk with that kid.

Dirtbag59 · 06-24-2011, 11:07 AM

A lot of the pundits really liked the Wizards draft this year. I don't think I've seen them with anything lower then an A-.
WASHINGTON WIZARDS GRADE: A
Round 1: Jan Vesely (6), Chris Singleton (18, obtained from Atlanta)

Round 2: Shelvin Mack (34)

Analysis: This was a critical summer for the Wizards. Drafting John Wall was easy last year. This year, the challenge was to surround him with players who complement his talents. Mission accomplished.

Vesely is one of the most athletic forwards in the draft and should be great flying up and down the floor with Wall. Singleton is also a terrific athlete and the best defender in the draft. Factor in Shelvin Mack as a solid backup guard at No. 34, and the Wizards came away more athletic and tougher. That's a great draft.

itvnetop · 06-24-2011, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Also, Derrick Williams > Kyrie Irving.

The Cavs blew it. Irving is unproven (11 games in college?) and possibly NOT a team player. When he came back, he played well...and his team lost, looking horrible.

Irving is talented, but not #1-pick talented. Derrick Williams is a better player in my opinion. I may have even taken Brandon Knight over Irving. I just think there's too much risk with that kid.

Totally agree... They should have built around Williams and Knight, as both of those players would play off each other well. I did like the Tristan Thompson pick, however. Cavs fans will need to be even more patient with us, however... Irving and Thompson are going to take a few seasons to develop.

SmootSmack · 06-25-2011, 06:23 PM

Rumor that Howard is being traded to the lakers this weekend for Bynum, odom, and first round draft picks. Deal is supposedly done, but I can't confirm

06-23-2011, 09:29 PM	#46
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 14,750	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread PG - John Wall - Shelvin Mack SG - Jordan Crawford - Nick Young SF - Vesely - Singleton - Evans PF - Blatche - Lewis - Kevin Seraphin C - McGee - Booker 9 out of 12 players in this projection drafted by the Wiz. The Caps model is in full effect. Red = This years picks Blue = Last Years picks __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG Last edited by Dirtbag59; 06-23-2011 at 10:57 PM.

06-23-2011, 10:49 PM	#48
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 14,750	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread Don't know a lot about Shelvin Mack but he went to Butler so based on that I feel good about the pick. PLAYER EVALUATION Projection Los Angeles Lakers (No. 41 Pick) Positives Shooter with deep range NBA body Deceptive quickness Strong leadership qualities Solid ball handler and passer Strong guard Negatives Is he a point guard or a two guard? Lacks elite level explosiveness Inconsistent jump shot Notes Mack has declared for the 2011 NBA Draft. He will hire an agent, ending his college eligibility. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

06-24-2011, 03:19 AM	#49
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 46 Posts: 3,007	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread Did our Euro just say that "Blake Griffin is the American Jan Vesely"? Easy there, J-Swag. __________________ "Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change." - Nino Brown my blather

06-24-2011, 03:28 AM	#50
itvnetop Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Age: 46 Posts: 3,007	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread I'm intrigued by the Mack pick... It would be great if he turned out to be a Kyle Lowry-type perimeter defender. I'll just have to warm up to Vesely some time... Wall's got athletes that can run with him now. With Singleton on board, we're building a defensive presence too. __________________ "Sit your five dollar ass down before I make change." - Nino Brown my blather

06-24-2011, 05:44 AM	#51
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 14,750	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread One more year of sucking should yield us one more high lottery pick and complete the team. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

06-24-2011, 05:53 AM	#52
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 14,750	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread More on Jan's Girlfriend. Video: Jan Vesely and Eva Kodouskova are the cutest thing ever - Ball Don't Lie - NBABlog - Yahoo! Sports For anyone wondering she's 6'3. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice."* - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG Last edited by Dirtbag59; 06-24-2011 at 08:12 AM.

06-24-2011, 08:32 AM	#53
mredskins MVP Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 12,476	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread I am pumped about the Celtics pick. Been watching Brooks for awhile at PC and he is a gamer. __________________ When life gives you paper jams, turn them into paper footballs!

06-24-2011, 10:39 AM	#56
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 44 Posts: 17,460	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread Great picks. Vesely....GREAT pick. I was hoping they'd pick Mack when I saw he was still there. Singleton should be a solid player too. Not a star, but solid. Nice draft. Building a bright future after the housecleaning. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

06-24-2011, 10:44 AM	#57
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 44 Posts: 17,460	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread Also, Derrick Williams > Kyrie Irving. The Cavs blew it. Irving is unproven (11 games in college?) and possibly NOT a team player. When he came back, he played well...and his team lost, looking horrible. Irving is talented, but not #1-pick talented. Derrick Williams is a better player in my opinion. I may have even taken Brandon Knight over Irving. I just think there's too much risk with that kid. __________________ Not sent from a Droid, iPhone, Blackberry or toaster

06-24-2011, 11:07 AM	#58
Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 38 Posts: 14,750	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread A lot of the pundits really liked the Wizards draft this year. I don't think I've seen them with anything lower then an A-. WASHINGTON WIZARDS GRADE: A Round 1: Jan Vesely (6), Chris Singleton (18, obtained from Atlanta) Round 2: Shelvin Mack (34) Analysis: This was a critical summer for the Wizards. Drafting John Wall was easy last year. This year, the challenge was to surround him with players who complement his talents. Mission accomplished. Vesely is one of the most athletic forwards in the draft and should be great flying up and down the floor with Wall. Singleton is also a terrific athlete and the best defender in the draft. Factor in Shelvin Mack as a solid backup guard at No. 34, and the Wizards came away more athletic and tougher. That's a great draft. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

06-25-2011, 06:23 PM	#60
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Washington Wizards 2011-2012 Ongoing Thread Rumor that Howard is being traded to the lakers this weekend for Bynum, odom, and first round draft picks. Deal is supposedly done, but I can't confirm __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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