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Old 06-17-2022, 08:48 AM   #16
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Less than 10 wins would be a failure in my opinion. It this team stays healthy - which is always a big if - 10 wins should be considered the floor.
I know we have upgraded at positions...but I always kind of look at the floor as last years record. hopefully we get a few more wins than last year, but until they prove it on the field, its just the celery that would come with undercooked wings.
again...i def see improvements, but our defense is still the same scheme with no lb group. With our starting rotation in last year before injuries (and mostly after) they were pretty abysmal.
we shall def see. hope im wrong...but i dont think we have done enough to turn the corner.
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Old 06-17-2022, 09:21 AM   #17
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Hopefully Holcomb and Davis stay healthy all season.
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Old 06-17-2022, 09:24 PM   #18
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20-0, Snyder gets elected to the HOF for going undefeated in the modern 17 game season and for his ability to dodge bullets from haters. He celebrates by flying all the cheerleaders to the Bahamas and taking all their passports - he agrees to give them back when they get back on the team plane topless.
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Old 06-17-2022, 11:34 PM   #19
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per scheed, looked it up:

2022-23 NFL WIN TOTALS BETTING ODDS
Alphabetical Order

Arizona Cardinals 9.5 (Last Season: 11)
Atlanta Falcons 4.5 (Last Season: 4)
Baltimore Ravens 9.5 (Last Season: 8)
Buffalo Bills 11.5 (Last Season: 11)
Carolina Panthers 5.5 (Last Season: 5)
Chicago Bears 6.5 (Last Season: 6)
Cincinnati Bengals 9.5 (Last Season: 10)
Dallas Cowboys 10.5 (Last Season: 12)
Denver Broncos 10.5 (Last Season: 7)
Detroit Lions 6.5 (Last Season: 3)
Green Bay Packers 11.5 (Last Season: 13)
Houston Texans 4.5 (Last Season: 4)
Indianapolis Colts 9.5 (Last Season: 9)
Jacksonville Jaguars 6.5 (Last Season: 3)
Kansas City Chiefs 10.5 (Last Season: 12)
Los Angeles Chargers 10.5 (Last Season: 9)
Los Angeles Rams 10.5 (Last Season: 12)
Las Vegas Raiders 8.5 (Last Season: 10)
Miami Dolphins 8.5 (Last Season: 9)
Minnesota Vikings 8.5 (Last Season: 8)
New England Patriots 8.5 (Last Season: 10)
New Orleans Saints 7.5 (Last Season: 9)
New York Giants 7.5 (Last Season: 4)
New York Jets 5.5 (Last Season: 4)
Philadelphia Eagles 8.5 (Last Season: 9)
Pittsburgh Steelers 7.5 (Last Season: 9)
San Francisco 49ers 9.5 (Last Season: 10)
Seattle Seahawks 5.5 (Last Season: 7)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11.5 (Last Season: 13)
Tennessee Titans 9.5 (Last Season: 12)
Washington Commanders 7.5 (Last Season: 7)

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Old 06-18-2022, 08:31 AM   #20
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That total for us is completely understandable imo, simply too many unknowns. Underperforming, bad defense last year, best offensive player holding out, a qb surrounded by a negative narrative, another offseason of negativity around the franchise, Etc

I would honestly bet the over of 7.5 here. I think if Fitz played the entire season he would have been worth 1-2 more wins, Wentz with this team…adding Chase back and no Covid worries going forward is a .500 team period. Bet the over
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Old 06-18-2022, 09:26 AM   #21
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Re: Question to all Commander fans...

This team has potential to win 10-11 games. But also has things that could make us only win like 7ish games.

At least I have hope.
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Old 06-18-2022, 02:36 PM   #22
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Old 06-18-2022, 05:57 PM   #23
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I know we have upgraded at positions...but I always kind of look at the floor as last years record. hopefully we get a few more wins than last year, but until they prove it on the field, its just the celery that would come with undercooked wings.
again...i def see improvements, but our defense is still the same scheme with no lb group. With our starting rotation in last year before injuries (and mostly after) they were pretty abysmal.
we shall def see. hope im wrong...but i dont think we have done enough to turn the corner.
That's fair. They will have to prove it.

I do think less than 10 wins would be a failure though. It's weird saying that, but there's too much talent for me to think otherwise. To me, this is the year that after which, we can all look back on the hiring of RR and company, and pass judgment.
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Old 06-19-2022, 12:26 PM   #24
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That's fair. They will have to prove it.

I do think less than 10 wins would be a failure though. It's weird saying that, but there's too much talent for me to think otherwise. To me, this is the year that after which, we can all look back on the hiring of RR and company, and pass judgment.
Agreed.
And I'll even take it a step further, and be fearful of a losing season for fear of the rr experiment failing, and Snyder taking total control of the team back, whether in the public eye or not. With him thinking that the albert Haynesworth, Bruce smith, and deion sanders, type sigings fill seats.
I like rr, and his discipline/accountability with the players....but I don't know that as a whole, that the coaching staff has what it takes to get more wins.
We are bad.
We have been bad.
With no coaching changes, I think no matter the player upgrades.....we will continue to be bad.
I hope I'm wrong...but I hope for sunshine, while also packing an umbrella.
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Old 06-19-2022, 07:38 PM   #25
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With the QB situation RR has dealt with I’m not sure any coach could do much better …
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Old 06-20-2022, 01:12 AM   #26
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per scheed, looked it up:

2022-23 NFL WIN TOTALS BETTING ODDS
Alphabetical Order

Arizona Cardinals 9.5 (Last Season: 11)
Atlanta Falcons 4.5 (Last Season: 4)
Baltimore Ravens 9.5 (Last Season: 8)
Buffalo Bills 11.5 (Last Season: 11)
Carolina Panthers 5.5 (Last Season: 5)
Chicago Bears 6.5 (Last Season: 6)
Cincinnati Bengals 9.5 (Last Season: 10)
Dallas Cowboys 10.5 (Last Season: 12)
Denver Broncos 10.5 (Last Season: 7)
Detroit Lions 6.5 (Last Season: 3)
Green Bay Packers 11.5 (Last Season: 13)
Houston Texans 4.5 (Last Season: 4)
Indianapolis Colts 9.5 (Last Season: 9)
Jacksonville Jaguars 6.5 (Last Season: 3)
Kansas City Chiefs 10.5 (Last Season: 12)
Los Angeles Chargers 10.5 (Last Season: 9)
Los Angeles Rams 10.5 (Last Season: 12)
Las Vegas Raiders 8.5 (Last Season: 10)
Miami Dolphins 8.5 (Last Season: 9)
Minnesota Vikings 8.5 (Last Season: 8)
New England Patriots 8.5 (Last Season: 10)
New Orleans Saints 7.5 (Last Season: 9)
New York Giants 7.5 (Last Season: 4)
New York Jets 5.5 (Last Season: 4)
Philadelphia Eagles 8.5 (Last Season: 9)
Pittsburgh Steelers 7.5 (Last Season: 9)
San Francisco 49ers 9.5 (Last Season: 10)
Seattle Seahawks 5.5 (Last Season: 7)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 11.5 (Last Season: 13)
Tennessee Titans 9.5 (Last Season: 12)
Washington Commanders 7.5 (Last Season: 7)

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Old 06-20-2022, 04:25 AM   #27
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