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Sign Peyton Manning | 43 | 32.82% | |
Trade up for RGIII | 88 | 67.18% | |
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02-10-2012, 10:52 PM | #46 | |
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Insanity is doing the same things over and over expecting different results. I figured you guys would have "gotten it" over this past decade but apparently you long for the Cerrato era back again. *sighs*
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02-10-2012, 10:53 PM | #47 | |
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02-10-2012, 10:53 PM | #48 | |
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Good case, but the money spent on Manning will hamper their ability to sign other free agents that could end up being as valuable, if not more, than some of their draft picks. His health is a legitimate concern at this point.
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02-10-2012, 10:58 PM | #49 | |
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02-10-2012, 11:01 PM | #50 | |
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Apart from the fact that you are guessing very high at the trade up cost, being overly optimistic in where Denard and Te'o will be drafted (won't we be picking later in the 1st with Peyton?) and ignoring where that 3rd would go if we didn't need Cousins (unless you are also suggesting that goes in this colossal trade up). You are also conveniently leaving out the salary cap costs of Manning that could be spent elsewhere without him. All that said, you are talking about a very narrow window in this pie-in-the-sky vision people have of Manning being healthy and unaffected by surgery, layoff or change of venue and somehow re-becoming the QB he was a few years ago (not to mention him apparently being able to make a mediocrity like Cousins into someone to build a future around thru some kind of osmosis). Even at that, someone has to draw the line at any level of optimism that has us putting a Super Bowl team around him in one offseason. So now we're looking at a window of opportunity that begins at a 37 year old and goes forward from there, for ...what? 2 years? No thanks. I'll take my chances at a decade and a half of greatness leading our team. A all the way. |
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02-10-2012, 11:02 PM | #51 |
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If the Browns don't get Manning or Flynn, they're mos definitely going to draft RGIII if he falls to them. Publicly the browns have said that they're not committed to McCoy as their quarterback. They're looking at the best qb option possible, so there's no way RGIII falls past pick 4 without the browns getting their hopeful franchise qb in free agency. Even then theres still a good chance they draft RGIII anyway.
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02-10-2012, 11:04 PM | #52 |
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... So if the redskins want RGIII then they better have hops cuz they're going to need to jump up to get him.
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02-10-2012, 11:05 PM | #53 |
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Lotus, biffle just gave you your amen.
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02-10-2012, 11:09 PM | #54 |
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I'll look at everyone elses after I offer my decision that way I'm not influenced.
Peyton is better then RGIII on any given Sun. Now the big question... will he be healthy enough to start come Sept.? To me doesn't matter. He's healthy he starts, he's not.... see if he is getting any better if not see if he would like to stay in the NFL and help out my son Kyle Shanahan. Meanwhile I'm able to keep all my draft picks, get some weapons to put around whoever is at QB. Next year with a full compliment of draft picks if PM was unable to play and whoever the backup was failed to get the job done..... I go all in to get to the first pick or second pick in 2013. Next year we will be in a better position to go all in sense we would have basically built up an OL, added some weapons, and only have a real need for QB on offense. Defense is almost set as long as we take a FS, ILB, and CB in this years draft then there shouldn't be a major need for any one spot other then QB next year. Besides the coaching staff really liked Barkely anyway. |
02-10-2012, 11:09 PM | #55 | |
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To my knowledge from what has been reported in the media, Peyton is prepared to negotiate a Very Cap friendly deal. HEAVY in incentives. He is reportedly less concerned about the money than the situation into which he will play.
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02-10-2012, 11:19 PM | #56 |
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Legitimate concern, sure. But the probability of preventing him from playing like himself is no greater than the probability of Robert Griffin flopping.
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02-10-2012, 11:19 PM | #57 |
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The 49ers didn't make it to the NFC championship due to Alex Smith tearing it up. They made it on the back of their defense and their running game while asking Alex Smith not to blow it. Granted, he had a huge playoffs, but that's about it. That team was stacked. They didn't sell the farm for one guy. They've built that team from the draft and supplemented via FA. Which is what good teams do.
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02-10-2012, 11:23 PM | #58 |
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Manning's contract would not be a concern from a cap standpoint given this team's recent commitment under Shanahan & Allen to rely on the draft moreso than free agency. Signing Manning to an incentive-laden deal would result in the team filling its needs through the draft, the way it should be done.
And even if the deal was an issue (which it wouldn't be), if Manning precludes us from going on a free agency spending splurge, isn't that a good thing? Did you guys just become Redskins fans last year or need I remind you of the lost decade of the 2000s?
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02-10-2012, 11:24 PM | #59 | |
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I'm with Quake, the 49ers make a poor example of the point that you are trying to make.
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02-10-2012, 11:27 PM | #60 | |
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