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08-15-2018, 03:04 PM | #61 |
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I totally get this mentality - I play football and I always get similar feeling whenever a teammate quit on us every time. However, I am looking through multiple lens, not just football player & football fan lens. I also look through mental health provider lens - I work in a community mental health center and I have Bachelor's in Clinical Psychology.
Anxiety and depression (or any other mental health issues) are not something anyone could simply brush off. Unfortunately, the society still believe in baseless stereotypes surrounding mental health. On almost daily basis, I see how anxiety and depression can affect people and their family/friends. Therefore, I have pretty good undersanding of where Cravens is coming from. To give you a glimpse of severe mental health can do to anyone - my coworker had a case where a patient is diagnosed with severe anxiety; one day, the anxiety got really bad for the patient to a point where he actually believed that his family is trying to take him out in woods to kill him, but the family was simply trying to bring him to my coworker's office due to intesified symptoms. The patient physically harmed his family and they had to call police on the patient. About one week later after being hospitalized, the patient recovered and quickly realized what he did to his family, and now he is filled with guiltness and constantly trying to make it up to his family.. The article also mentioned important facts such as symptoms Cravens experienced; his family and friends felt like Cravens was different person when he was experiencing symptoms; people who knew him for a while defended Cravens's passion for football. I can understand how easy it is for any readers to overlook or simply ignore those facts, however, as a person who have good knowledge regarding mental health, those facts are what convinced me that Cravens's mental health issues are significant than we, fans & NFL, thought it to be. Please don't get me wrong, this is not to say that Cravens is innocent - how he handled this entire situation is exactly what caused issues for teammates and coaches. By being secretive about what he is going through, he basically left teammates to assume what he was trying to do and naturally, the teammates assumed the worst. I understand completely where Swearinger and teammates are coming from; Swearinger paid Cravens $36k for #36 and then few weeks later, Cravens walked away. How Cravens announced his decision to "retire" and take a break from football to his teammates and walked away from the team right before beginning of the season. Also, Cravens trying to avoid playing due to minor elbow injury while other players are playing with bigger injuries. Those actions are deal-breaker for almost every player and I do not hold it against Redskins players. Based on the article, it is evident NFL do not have policies nor practice approaches that are friendly for mental health disorders; this pretty much reflect how society views mental health issues. If NFL has policies, are familiar with mental health disorders, and there are mental health providers ready for players; I am 95% certain this entire situation could have been avoided. This is exactly why I said it was bad situation for everyone involved. |
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08-15-2018, 05:11 PM | #62 | |
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Dude you're losing your shit. This has nothing to do with being a millennial. He is a spoiled brat, they aren't exclusive to the millennial generation. |
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08-15-2018, 05:29 PM | #63 |
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Mental Health is a serious subject but being a cry baby ass bitch is not anxiety.
Cravens is the guy who takes his pet hamster on a plane claiming it's his therapy hamster. Seriously, fuck these ass holes that fuck up therapy animals for people that really need them. I was a fan of Cravens from the get go. He is a local kid that played hard at USC (University of Spoiled Children). I've also followed him on social media and saw red flags before he played a snap for the Skins. The guy wants to be a superstar like Sean or Ed Reed. He wants the big money and fame. He want to bang models and porn stars (Search Sua and Mia Khalifa NWFW probably so I can't post a link). He gets anxiety when he can't live up to his standards. This isn't a mental health issue. This is a personality defect from being a soft ass pussy. This kid is coming off a lost season where his reputation was murdered. What does he do first week in camp? Post on instagram a picture of him holding up a 21 jersey with a captains patch. He is almost out of the league but he thinks he is going to be captain? This isn't anxiety or depression. He is soft and folds when things get tough. man this was a rant... Wasted 2nd round pick. |
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08-15-2018, 08:35 PM | #65 | |
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I find it comical how NFL always switch back and forth when it comes to business - NFL always said that NFL is all about business and acts like it when it comes to money & players' contracts, and cutting & trading players, and, and yet NFL always try skirt around other aspects of business such as taking care of its employees (players) and corporate social responsibilities. |
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08-16-2018, 11:53 AM | #67 | |
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08-16-2018, 12:39 PM | #68 | |
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08-16-2018, 12:42 PM | #69 |
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Welp, we will see if Cravens is miraculous cured this season. Story not over, but here in DC...zero sympathy
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08-16-2018, 01:16 PM | #70 | |
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08-16-2018, 02:58 PM | #71 | |
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In general, you are correct. This is my fourth year working behind scene in the CMHC, in other words, business operation within the CMHC. And I'm currently studying MBA so I am still learning about business world. Although, I don't believe the lack of understanding of business world and/or how business world is like in real life, should prevent anyone from trying to make changes in business world for better. You said you are not convinced that the situation could have been avoided. I gave a quick explanation of how it could have been avoided, which is NFL putting in efforts to understand and then utilize resources for mental health issues. Whether NFL is willing to do that, and how multi-billion companies are currently being run is different point, I believe. |
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08-18-2018, 08:56 PM | #72 |
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There are still some decent free agents available on D if any injuries occur. Navorro Bowman and Junior Galette, both 30 YO.
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08-19-2018, 12:48 AM | #73 |
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So, for my brothers bachelor party, I brought him to a Phillies game. We are fans being from the lehigh valley (flame on) but the hotel we booked happened to be where the eagles are staying after camp. Now, I'm. Skins fan through and through....but it's super cool to see the guys checking in after practice....not that I dont have respect for the process...but seeing the dudes rolling in after practice gives a new found respect for all the players and teams. Really cool experience. This whole post was a total aside.....
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08-19-2018, 11:56 AM | #75 |
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Yeah I am an old fart but I would have rather enjoyed that instead of the usual thing that goes on,and a Great dinner at a Ruth Chris type place! My buddies were all around 21/22 years old when I got married and we were either to young or broke or both to do something like that!
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