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Old 05-02-2019, 12:02 PM   #61
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Smith's injury was unforseeable, but i just can't stop thinking about where this team would be if we hadnt traded for Smith. We'd have 20M extra in cap space this year and Kendall Fuller. which means we probably woudl have been in a positon to cut Norman and sign other really good/elite starters in free agency.
Why does everyone want to get rid of Norman? He's still a top cover corner. I love him. He's always hustling and trying to force turnovers.

In your scenario, which starters would you have wanted to sign in FA?
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:03 PM   #62
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The one random FA signing I want is Berry. FS is still a HUGE question mark and could bite us all season long. Maybe 2-3 year deal even though he's old and injury-prone.
I would be shocked if he gets a deal longer than 1 year with any team.

I'm thinking the same for the vast majority of veteran FA's at this point in the year.
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:11 PM   #63
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I know PFF's opinion isn't the final word or anything but they usually have a pretty good grasp on where individual players stack up.

They had Norman as a top 5 cover corner last season. https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...rbacks-in-2018
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:31 PM   #64
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I know PFF's opinion isn't the final word or anything but they usually have a pretty good grasp on where individual players stack up.

They had Norman as a top 5 cover corner last season. https://www.profootballfocus.com/new...rbacks-in-2018
I forget who...think it was JP who said the other day, Norman accounted for 7 TO last year.

Ive never gotten the Norman hate. Is the salary high? yes but
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:36 PM   #65
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I forget who...think it was JP who said the other day, Norman accounted for 7 TO last year.

Ive never gotten the Norman hate. Is the salary high? yes but
3 picks, 3 forced fumbles, and 1 fumble recovery.

When he goes to make a tackle, he consistently tries to punch the ball out. He's just an all around awesome football player.
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Old 05-02-2019, 12:51 PM   #66
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3 picks, 3 forced fumbles, and 1 fumble recovery.

When he goes to make a tackle, he consistently tries to punch the ball out. He's just an all around awesome football player.
He's also available on the field and plays through injuries.
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:37 PM   #67
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I also don't get the Norman hate. He and a healthy Dunbar will give us a near elite DB field.
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:57 PM   #69
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Why does everyone want to get rid of Norman? He's still a top cover corner. I love him. He's always hustling and trying to force turnovers.

In your scenario, which starters would you have wanted to sign in FA?
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I also don't get the Norman hate. He and a healthy Dunbar will give us a near elite DB field.

We don't want to get rid of him because of his play. He's making 14M per year. He's worth maybe half that. To cut him this year would only save us half that, and then we'd have to have spent that money on a corner in free agency to replace him, so there's really no point in doing it.

Next year he's set to make the same, but its not guaranteed so we can cut him and then use that same money to sign TWO corners of josh Norman's caliber.
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We don't want to get rid of him because of his play. He's making 14M per year. He's worth maybe half that. To cut him this year would only save us half that, and then we'd have to have spent that money on a corner in free agency to replace him, so there's really no point in doing it.

Next year he's set to make the same, but its not guaranteed so we can cut him and then use that same money to sign TWO corners of josh Norman's caliber.
I think it's a $6M penalty if they cut him this year and a $3M penalty if they cut him next year.

But back to my original question: In your scenario, which starters would you have wanted to sign in FA?
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I think it's a $6M penalty if they cut him this year and a $3M penalty if they cut him next year.

But back to my original question: In your scenario, which starters would you have wanted to sign in FA?
None this year. As i said, the cost/benefit this year would not have been worth it due to our cap situation.
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None this year. As i said, the cost/benefit this year would not have been worth it due to our cap situation.
Gotcha. I just thought you said if we had never made the Smith trade then we would have been in a position to cut Norman and sign some good or elite starters in FA.

I was just curious which guys you had in mind when you said that.
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Gotcha. I just thought you said if we had never made the Smith trade then we would have been in a position to cut Norman and sign some good or elite starters in FA.

I was just curious which guys you had in mind when you said that.
In making that statement, i was saying that Kendall Fuller's presence (we gave him up as part of the deal for smith), would have made Norman expendable. We'd have cap savings from cutting Norman, which we could have used to address other areas of the team, we could have used it on a FA CB (there were many available in free agency), we could have drafted one (assuming we spent money to fill needs elsewhere in free agency), or we could have just rolled with Fuller an Dunbar as our top 2 corners. Hell, we could even have cut Norman and resigned him (think this could be an option next year).

My point was the additional 20MM in cap room without the smith contract, plus the presence Fuller, would have given us the flexibility to dump Norman's ridiculous contract.
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In making that statement, i was saying that Kendall Fuller's presence (we gave him up as part of the deal for smith), would have made Norman expendable. We'd have cap savings from cutting Norman, which we could have used to address other areas of the team, we could have used it on a FA CB (there were many available in free agency), we could have drafted one (assuming we spent money to fill needs elsewhere in free agency), or we could have just rolled with Fuller an Dunbar as our top 2 corners. Hell, we could even have cut Norman and resigned him (think this could be an option next year).

My point was the additional 20MM in cap room without the smith contract, plus the presence Fuller, would have given us the flexibility to dump Norman's ridiculous contract.
I understand your point, your reasoning, and everything that you said.

I am still just curious about which specific free agents you were thinking of when you said good/elite starters.
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