The Haskins Threat

Warthog · 11-18-2019, 02:57 PM

I think this was an honest request for help from his OL. Part of the problem of a rookie slow progression, a very good blitzing scheme, his slow release, etc.

This OL has gone from good, to decent to just plain awful. Moses has regressed significantly and with his multitude of penalties is a total liability. Scherff has also really gone downhill. For a guy in his contact year he looks like crap. I’ll be interested in what the next HC does with them. The loss of Trent to this OL can’t be overstated. He was the soul of the OL. Flowers is decent. Penn is just a stopgap.

This OL will take two years of draft picks and FA to fix.

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SFREDSKIN · 11-19-2019, 10:25 AM

This could be true:

https://twitter.com/jreidnfl/status/...705199617?s=21

skinsfan69 · 11-19-2019, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Knowing what we know now where do you think Haskins should have been picked? I am kind of shocked how bad his fundamentals can be. He does have a nice arm, but overall has a long way to go. IMO he shouldn't have been a first round pick, more like mid 2nd round at best.

Projects like him should be taken in the 5th round. But QB's are always over drafted. Haskins reminds me so much of Cardale Jones. A big raw QB with a huge arm who really needed to stay in college. I believe Jones was taken in the 4th by the Bills.

Speaking of Jones he will be here in DC playing for the XFL team.

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-19-2019, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Projects like him should be taken in the 5th round. But QB's are always over drafted. Haskins reminds me so much of Cardale Jones. A big raw QB with a huge arm who really needed to stay in college. I believe Jones was taken in the 4th by the Bills.

Speaking of Jones he will be here in DC playing for the XFL team.

The team drafted him with the intent of sitting a year. Its not his fault that the team sucks so freaking bad that they really had no choice but to play him. If we were like a normal bad 4-7 or so, I think Case would still be playing. I still think he was the right pick at 15 and he will be a good QB. He for sure needs to find one of those QB guru's this offseason and work his ass off though. He is much better than Cardale Jones. Jones was a flash in the pan over a few games at the end of the season at OSU.

rocnrik · 11-19-2019, 01:32 PM

This team more than any other could use a stud TE and that along with guice out of backfield would give Haskins some options on the quick throws.. losing Reed and Davis was devastating to his development

sdskinsfan2001 · 11-19-2019, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rocnrik

This team more than any other could use a stud TE and that along with guice out of backfield would give Haskins some options on the quick throws.. losing Reed and Davis was devastating to his development

This. The TE position going into this year was the biggest miss by whoever was involved with those decisions. It was inexcusable.

punch it in · 11-19-2019, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SunnySide

Playcalling has to be scaled back to ease Haskins in. I get that. Im fine with that. Hopefully he is part of the game plan process and people are actually communicating with each other.

Pass pro - I dont think its as simple as blaming the O line. They played above expectations when Case was in there getting the ball out on time on 3-5 step drops. Half the sacks yesterday seemed to be on Haskins not getting the ball out on time (guy not open or he doesnt trust his eyes yet?).

Haskins has the ability to slide protections, check out of plays etc so idk honestly. They had 6 sacks yesterday?

Not saying Haskins doesn’t have alot to learn, but he is a rookie, with what two starts? This staff and that o line....has no excuse. They stink. Lol.

skinsfan69 · 11-19-2019, 08:30 PM

Not sure if anyone caught Total Access but Michael Robinson pointed out a few plays Sun where guys were wide open but Haskins basically pre determined where he was throwing the ball. Said he is fine if read 1 is open, but pre and post snap is different. Hope we see some improvement next week. Lions really struggled last week on d.

skinsfaninok · 11-19-2019, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not sure if anyone caught Total Access but Michael Robinson pointed out a few plays Sun where guys were wide open but Haskins basically pre determined where he was throwing the ball. Said he is fine if read 1 is open, but pre and post snap is different. Hope we see some improvement next week. Lions really struggled last week on d.

they struggled vs a loaded offense and a seasoned QB, you can't expect Dwayne to put up big numbers this yr, he doesn't have the help nor did Keenum

Warthog · 11-20-2019, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not sure if anyone caught Total Access but Michael Robinson pointed out a few plays Sun where guys were wide open but Haskins basically pre determined where he was throwing the ball. Said he is fine if read 1 is open, but pre and post snap is different. Hope we see some improvement next week. Lions really struggled last week on d.

Do you remember who was open?

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BaltimoreSkins · 11-20-2019, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not sure if anyone caught Total Access but Michael Robinson pointed out a few plays Sun where guys were wide open but Haskins basically pre determined where he was throwing the ball. Said he is fine if read 1 is open, but pre and post snap is different. Hope we see some improvement next week. Lions really struggled last week on d.

Basic rookie growing pains. Luck changed the narrative here but every rookie will have foundational skills they struggle with, good coaches and teams can mask that. I hope we see tremendous improvement in that arena in the offseason I am not sure a lame duck coaching staff is the group that will work on/fix that

skinsfaninok · 11-20-2019, 08:02 AM

He's a bum , bust , the next Ramsey etc.

MTK · 11-20-2019, 11:12 AM

2 starts and people are writing him off... smh

He's definitely a project, his development is going to depend on getting the right people around him to coach him up.

mooby · 11-20-2019, 12:06 PM

https://twitter.com/markbullocknfl/s...903828480?s=21

This was the first play that really impressed me with Haskins. Small sample size but I really hope he's the last qb we're going to have to need for the next decade.

MTK · 11-20-2019, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mooby

https://twitter.com/markbullocknfl/s...903828480?s=21

This was the first play that really impressed me with Haskins. Small sample size but I really hope he's the last qb we're going to have to need for the next decade.

That’s a Mahomes type of throw

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11-18-2019, 02:57 PM	#301
Warthog The Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Doylestown, PA Posts: 1,029	Re: The Haskins Thread I think this was an honest request for help from his OL. Part of the problem of a rookie slow progression, a very good blitzing scheme, his slow release, etc. This OL has gone from good, to decent to just plain awful. Moses has regressed significantly and with his multitude of penalties is a total liability. Scherff has also really gone downhill. For a guy in his contact year he looks like crap. I’ll be interested in what the next HC does with them. The loss of Trent to this OL can’t be overstated. He was the soul of the OL. Flowers is decent. Penn is just a stopgap. This OL will take two years of draft picks and FA to fix. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Four Combat Tours in Afghanistan, Iraq and Kuwait. Flyboy. "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave"

11-19-2019, 10:25 AM	#302
SFREDSKIN MVP Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 12,077	Re: The Haskins Threat This could be true: https://twitter.com/jreidnfl/status/...705199617?s=21 __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

11-19-2019, 01:32 PM	#305
rocnrik Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 968	Re: The Haskins Threat This team more than any other could use a stud TE and that along with guice out of backfield would give Haskins some options on the quick throws.. losing Reed and Davis was devastating to his development

11-19-2019, 08:30 PM	#308
skinsfan69 Gamebreaker Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA and San Diego, CA Posts: 14,216	Re: The Haskins Threat Not sure if anyone caught Total Access but Michael Robinson pointed out a few plays Sun where guys were wide open but Haskins basically pre determined where he was throwing the ball. Said he is fine if read 1 is open, but pre and post snap is different. Hope we see some improvement next week. Lions really struggled last week on d.

11-20-2019, 08:02 AM	#312
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Buffalo NY Posts: 28,127	Re: The Haskins Threat He's a bum , bust , the next Ramsey etc. __________________ THUNDER UP "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

11-20-2019, 11:12 AM	#313
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 93,977	Re: The Haskins Threat 2 starts and people are writing him off... smh He's definitely a project, his development is going to depend on getting the right people around him to coach him up. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

11-20-2019, 12:06 PM	#314
mooby liberal snowflake Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 16,579	Re: The Haskins Threat https://twitter.com/markbullocknfl/s...903828480?s=21 This was the first play that really impressed me with Haskins. Small sample size but I really hope he's the last qb we're going to have to need for the next decade.

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