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Old 01-25-2020, 02:32 PM   #421
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Wrong, he went to become Matt LaFleur part 2, the Rams offense went downhill after he left last year. You are underestimating KOC.






I’m not underestimating KOC. He might turn out to be a great OC or possibly even a good or better HC outside the Redskins organization, as others obviously haves done who left this dumpster fire. However, he’s probably not ready for prime time, RIGHT NOW. He’s going to learn under McVay and will be used to design plays for the offense.



The Redskins were the 32nd in terms of offense. Mostly it was Gruden and Callahan. But any team would be crazy to move KOC right to a OC spot after he ran the worse offense in the NFL and until they’re sure he really has what it takes to have that much responsibility. KOC may be great one day, but for now he’s going to learn under the master.





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Old 05-26-2020, 11:40 AM   #422
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The Carolina Panthers mismanaged Cam Newton’s injuries for the last few years before they released him, the quarterback’s former teammate Mike Tolbert said in an interview Monday.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/panth...-teammate-says

Former player basically questions panthers decision to hold off on 2 different surgeries at 2 different times. Sounds like it’s the old “let’s hold off on surgery, see if you can play and win some games because if you have surgery now before the season starts then this is a lame duck season right out of the gate” approach. The old “LHOOS, SIYCPAWSGBIYHSNBTSSTTIALDSROOTG”.
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Old 05-26-2020, 08:39 PM   #423
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The Carolina Panthers mismanaged Cam Newton’s injuries for the last few years before they released him, the quarterback’s former teammate Mike Tolbert said in an interview Monday.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/panth...-teammate-says

Former player basically questions panthers decision to hold off on 2 different surgeries at 2 different times. Sounds like it’s the old “let’s hold off on surgery, see if you can play and win some games because if you have surgery now before the season starts then this is a lame duck season right out of the gate” approach. The old “LHOOS, SIYCPAWSGBIYHSNBTSSTTIALDSROOTG”.
LOL! Yes, that management approach is common enough in the NFL to have its own acronym.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:25 PM   #424
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RR did a 30 min plus zoom press conf with the media today. I caught the last 10 mins or so. Nothing much stands out except RR sounds like a very prepared, detailed oriented person. Which I like. Worry about what you can control. Your attention to details, team preparedness.

- adding a vet -- he said he wants to see what the young guys on the roster have first, then they may add if a player doesnt develop as fast as they hoped.

- LT, CB and WR were the groups he singled out as being excited to see what they in the young guys before considering bringing in a vet.

- disappointed he didnt get to address the team in person to start to get a feel for the room and had to do a team meeting via zoom.

- Proud of how Haskins and Chase have supported the protests.

- he made a statement re the civil unrest in the beginning that I missed but they said he had the right tone, message and approach

- he will support any players that want to kneel

- Snyder is donating 250k to a cause
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Old 06-19-2020, 03:45 AM   #425
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Sunny side, you make a really good point here: RR is saving spots in case young players don’t perform or grow as much as he’d like. The Redskins have an Uber amount of cash in the 2020 cap, as well as open spots, in order to pick up players dumped from other teams. I think we’ll see a half dozen players signed near the end of TC/PS, as other teams make the tough cuts of good players that they have to let go due to cap space or too many players in one position. I saw that da Bears have 10 TE. We might get a good TE from that group. Lol.


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Old 06-19-2020, 10:00 PM   #426
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Here's a breakdown of the coverages the Panthers used since 2015 and where that ranks:

- cover 1: 16% (32nd)
- cover 2: 9.5% (22nd)
- cover 3: 34.7% (7th)
- cover 4: 22% (1st)
- cover 6: 8.3% (13th)
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Old 06-20-2020, 01:33 AM   #427
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Here's a breakdown of the coverages the Panthers used since 2015 and where that ranks:

- cover 1: 16% (32nd)
- cover 2: 9.5% (22nd)
- cover 3: 34.7% (7th)
- cover 4: 22% (1st)
- cover 6: 8.3% (13th)
Coverages all have pros and cons. All based on talent and what your talent is good at.

All things being equal I like Cover 1 with a single high safety.

But if you don't have a minimum of 2 good man on man guys and no worse than a solid FS, this defense would get abused.

Don't like C2 for us because I don't think we have the LBs to be able to get back in the deepish middle between the safeties.

C3 would be my 2nd favorite coverage. I think we could be OK here.

C4, I think NFL QBs are too good to play this defense on a regular basis. Death by a 1000 cuts. Rather play more aggressive and get burnt deep from time to time.
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Old 06-20-2020, 07:18 AM   #428
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Don't like C2 for us because I don't think we have the LBs to be able to get back in the deepish middle between the safeties.
Just to point out that's Tampa 2 not Cover 2. But yeah, needs a good cover MLB for T2. Regular C2 needs good S's that can sniff the deep threat quickly as they have more ground to cover.

And C4 should only really be used in 2nd/3rd and long, and even then usually in game chasing scenarios. Like you say, death of 1000 cuts if used as a general coverage scheme.

I too like predominantly C3, especially disguised as C2 or C4.
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Old 06-20-2020, 12:18 PM   #429
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Coverages all have pros and cons. All based on talent and what your talent is good at.



All things being equal I like Cover 1 with a single high safety.



But if you don't have a minimum of 2 good man on man guys and no worse than a solid FS, this defense would get abused.



Don't like C2 for us because I don't think we have the LBs to be able to get back in the deepish middle between the safeties.



C3 would be my 2nd favorite coverage. I think we could be OK here.



C4, I think NFL QBs are too good to play this defense on a regular basis. Death by a 1000 cuts. Rather play more aggressive and get burnt deep from time to time.
One thing though. I don't know how much it is being used in the NFL, but the Cover 4 can used as a base coverage where on every play both safeties can audible their half of the field to a more specific coverage. I've seen it called Quarter defense.
Point being I'm not sure this stats means 22% of snaps where actually played with 4 players playing deep coverage.

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Old 06-21-2020, 08:53 AM   #430
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I think Haskins and Young need to focus on being the best they can be for this up and coming football season. I'm disappointed that anyone on this team would support this idiotic cult-like movement. We have a bunch of America hating Marxists out here rioting, looting, vandalizing statues, and burning down buildings based on a false narrative. The last stats we have on police shooting unarmed black suspects were back in 2018. Based on those numbers only nine unarmed black people were shot by police out of 44 million. On the flip side, we have black on black crime, which contributes to on average around 7000 black deaths per year. This is by far the highest murder rate in the country. So if we get rid of all the police on black shootings it wouldn't crack a dent in the black murder rate. Now let me ask you a question. We have black on black homicide cause seven thousand murders in a year and on the other side we have police responsible for nine murders in a year. Which one is the bigger issue? One of the problems with the left-wing morons who control the black community is that they have been very successful at making very minor issues that don't make a difference into big issues, while completely ignoring the huge issues that are devastating the black community. This is why black people will remain at the bottom.

Ron Rivera doesn't deserve any credit at all for supporting the kneelers. We have plenty of cucks around the league and all on sports news doing that. If he had any real balls who would have stood up for the country instead of siding with the very people who want to destroy it. It doesn't take a lot of courage to go along with the mob.

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I think Haskins and Young need to focus on being the best they can be for this up and coming football season. I'm disappointed that anyone on this team would support this idiotic cult-like movement. We have a bunch of America hating Marxists out here rioting, looting, vandalizing statues, and burning down buildings based on a false narrative. The last stats we have on police shooting unarmed black suspects were back in 2018. Based on those numbers only nine unarmed black people were shot by police out of 44 million. On the flip side, we have black on black crime, which contributes to on average around 7000 black deaths per year. This is by far the highest murder rate in the country. So if we get rid of all the police on black shootings it wouldn't crack a dent in the black murder rate. Now let me ask you a question. We have black on black homicide cause seven thousand murders in a year and on the other side we have police responsible for nine murders in a year. Which one is the bigger issue? One of the problems with the left-wing morons who control the black community is that they have been very successful at making very minor issues that don't make a difference into big issues, while completely ignoring the huge issues that are devastating the black community. This is why black people will remain at the bottom.

Ron Rivera doesn't deserve any credit at all for supporting the kneelers. We have plenty of cucks around the league and all on sports news doing that. If he had any real balls who would have stood up for the country instead of siding with the very people who want to destroy it. It doesn't take a lot of courage to go along with the mob.

I agree.
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Old 06-21-2020, 02:31 PM   #432
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I think Haskins and Young need to focus on being the best they can be for this up and coming football season. I'm disappointed that anyone on this team would support this idiotic cult-like movement. We have a bunch of America hating Marxists out here rioting, looting, vandalizing statues, and burning down buildings based on a false narrative. The last stats we have on police shooting unarmed black suspects were back in 2018. Based on those numbers only nine unarmed black people were shot by police out of 44 million. On the flip side, we have black on black crime, which contributes to on average around 7000 black deaths per year. This is by far the highest murder rate in the country. So if we get rid of all the police on black shootings it wouldn't crack a dent in the black murder rate. Now let me ask you a question. We have black on black homicide cause seven thousand murders in a year and on the other side we have police responsible for nine murders in a year. Which one is the bigger issue? One of the problems with the left-wing morons who control the black community is that they have been very successful at making very minor issues that don't make a difference into big issues, while completely ignoring the huge issues that are devastating the black community. This is why black people will remain at the bottom.

Ron Rivera doesn't deserve any credit at all for supporting the kneelers. We have plenty of cucks around the league and all on sports news doing that. If he had any real balls who would have stood up for the country instead of siding with the very people who want to destroy it. It doesn't take a lot of courage to go along with the mob.

I agree.
This is the so far the dumbest thing I've read on this site.
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Httr — eat a snickers and breath man. It’s going to be okay. I heard each stadium will establish an emotional safe space for fans who feel threatened by the kneelers so they can be protected during the national anthem.

Then teams are instructed to wait for 8:49 seconds prior to kick off so the more emotionally sensitive fans amongst us have time to get back to their seats.
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Well, I don’t want this to get into a political debate...and black on black violence is not really a specific thing as white on white violence occurs just because offender/victims usually know each other and usually occurs within there own communities. Violence is definitely an issue in a lot of areas in the country, and I’m not saying you are wrong and we shouldn’t have those conversations ...but the specific reason folks are on the streets are too many avoidable deaths of black people at the hands of police. And then the specific, racist incident of killing the black jogger in Georgia. I think there is common ground to say hey what happened there is wrong and we should find solutions to stop it.

I just like how you framed the mob/cancel culture bullshit which unfortunately has become the way of some to deal with some of these emotions...
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Old 06-21-2020, 07:22 PM   #435
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“Most black people are all heart and no brains.”

I think you exposed your implied agenda there buddy.

My life tip — relax, drink a beer, worry about you and let others do them. Just my opinion. I don’t go around screaming at people and calling them fascists for not conforming their views to mine. Because that would be ... what’s the word ... fascist.
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