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Old 05-12-2019, 09:17 PM   #211
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It makes no differences.

What you're doing here is creating a hypothetical to push your false narrative. Is there any verifiable evidence that Haskins and Jay Gruden don't get along? Unless you have some evidence of that then your "what ifs" are totally irrelevant. And if we got players who are ass hurt that Haskins "might" have a good relationship with the owner. Then tells me too things:

1) We have a weak ass locker room filled with a bunch of soy boys who's more focus on shit that doesn't matter instead of doing their job. We might need to replace those gossiping little girls with real men who realize they got a job to do.

2) The HC is totally incompetent and should be fired. If the qb having a good relationship with the owner can fracture your locker room then you are a total failure as a coach and your locker room needs to broken down and rebuilt.

Don't take this the wrong way. But I find it odd that you think you can tell someone who that need to have a good relationship with and who that can't. Dwayne Haskins can have a good relationship with whoever he wants. If he wants to befriend DS he is free to do that. If he dislikes Jay Gruden. That is his business. He can build a relationship with whomever he likes. As long as he shows up on game day it doesn't matter who he's friends with. It doesn't matter who likes him personally or doesn't like him. The only thing we should be concerned about is his performance. His performance is going to be determined by his work ethic and not his relationship with the owner or the front office.
A hypothetical? RG3 is an exact example of how a qb befriending an owner can lead to dysfunction. That literally already happened to this team already. I'm not even putting this on Haskins, it's on Dan to stay back. And there is no verifiable evidence Haskins and Gruden don't like each other, because they've been working together for two fucking weeks!.

When Haskins inevitably (because if you know anything about the NFL, you'd know disagreements between a coach and qb are bound to happen) gets into an argument with Gruden, I don't want Haskins feeling like he can run to the owner to complain. Gruden, and by extension all of his coaches, are the only ones who are going to put Haskins in position to succeed. Don't take this the wrong way but you're acting like we're not the Redskins, and we didn't already do this once in recent history, and the concerns here are not justifiable. We already have a fairly good idea of the hard-on Snyder has for Haskins, he needs to seek a doctor because the 4 hours has passed already.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:15 AM   #212
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Good write up in SI on Gruden / Haskens.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dw...ellor-seahawks
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:25 AM   #213
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Good write up in SI on Gruden / Haskens.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dw...ellor-seahawks
PK redemption article...good stuff in here. Thanks for posting. One thing about Gruden, dude has had a tough go in DC and has done well in handling all the issues. I know a lot of folks have this team near the bottom next season...I think with Keenum and Haskins...and what we have added on the field, we are under the radar. Everything depends on Gruden and O'Connell improving the offense imo and that means getting better play at QB.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:34 AM   #214
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Good write up in SI on Gruden / Haskens.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/05/13/dw...ellor-seahawks
Great read, thanks for sharing.. I did find one small detail interesting - Gruden spoke as if he will be Redskins coach for years to come when he talked about Haskins. I'm really glad Gruden has that mindset. While I'm not biggest fan of Gruden, he did a great job of righting Redskins ship after he became Redskins coach and because of that he will always have my respect. It would be a great story if Haskins help Gruden save his job, I only hope Gruden will focus on coaching entire team and let O'Connell do his work with offense this year.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:36 AM   #215
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PK redemption article...good stuff in here. Thanks for posting. One thing about Gruden, dude has had a tough go in DC and has done well in handling all the issues. I know a lot of folks have this team near the bottom next season...I think with Keenum and Haskins...and what we have added on the field, we are under the radar. Everything depends on Gruden and O'Connell improving the offense imo and that means getting better play at QB.
I actually believe there's a good chance of this.. Redskins is building a great defense (on paper) and we have a good RBs group, this definitely will help Haskins or Keenum greatly this year.
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Old 05-13-2019, 01:24 PM   #216
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I have to question something I read in that MMQB article... “Watched every game, every throw that they made, how they handled themselves under pressure,” Gruden said. Probably one of the primary question marks on Haskins coming into the NFL is his ability to play under pressure from a defense. He's excellent when getting through his progressions but awful when forced to make a quick read and get the ball out. I love the idea that Haskins was the guy the whole time, but don't BS me.. If Gruden was specifically targeting a QB who handles himself so well under pressure, I'm not sure Haskins is the guy you're going after. Also.. “They’re all pretty confident kids, bright-eyed. I was impressed with the entire class,” Gruden said. “But [Haskins] has a demeanor and aura about him, kind of similar to Cam Newton coming out, just an aura of confidence." WTF, Cam Newton looked like a man among boys. Haskins does not, at this point, have the confidence Cam Newton had coming into the league. I'm optimistic about Haskins but this article sounds like a lot of revisionist history BS to me..
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Old 05-13-2019, 02:29 PM   #217
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^^ Unless you've talked to him how do you know what his confidence is like??
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Old 05-14-2019, 11:16 AM   #218
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A hypothetical? RG3 is an exact example of how a qb befriending an owner can lead to dysfunction. That literally already happened to this team already. I'm not even putting this on Haskins, it's on Dan to stay back. And there is no verifiable evidence Haskins and Gruden don't like each other, because they've been working together for two fucking weeks!.

When Haskins inevitably (because if you know anything about the NFL, you'd know disagreements between a coach and qb are bound to happen) gets into an argument with Gruden, I don't want Haskins feeling like he can run to the owner to complain. Gruden, and by extension all of his coaches, are the only ones who are going to put Haskins in position to succeed. Don't take this the wrong way but you're acting like we're not the Redskins, and we didn't already do this once in recent history, and the concerns here are not justifiable. We already have a fairly good idea of the hard-on Snyder has for Haskins, he needs to seek a doctor because the 4 hours has passed already.
Here's an interesting question. How much did Snyder's preferential treatment of RG3 play into Cousin's not wanting to be a Redskin?
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Old 05-14-2019, 11:28 AM   #219
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Here's an interesting question. How much did Snyder's preferential treatment of RG3 play into Cousin's not wanting to be a Redskin?
I'm not sure Snyder's treatment of RG3 had anything to do with Cousins not wanting to be a Redskin. I think it was more of Cousins not liking Bruce Allen and going somewhere to get PAID.
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Old 05-14-2019, 12:57 PM   #220
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Re: Dwayne Haskins

My goal is to never talk about Kirk Cousins again after this comment:

Fuck that pussy!

We have Haskins, and until proven otherwise, pass me the fucking kool-aid, he is going to be a baller for us.
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Old 05-14-2019, 01:00 PM   #221
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Cousins wanted to get paid, period

I don’t blame him either


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Old 05-14-2019, 09:39 PM   #222
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Cousins is a smart guy. He knows Dan and Bruce simply can not be trusted. They're both losers when it comes to having success in the NFL.

Let's just hope Dan and Bruce don't ruin this kid. My concern is Dan will act like fan boy again since it's his hand picked player. Hopefully he doesn't turn into Jason Campbell and have a new offense to learn every year. This just isn't a model organization, especially for a young QB trying to learn his way.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:54 AM   #223
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Cousins wanted to get paid, period

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Old 05-15-2019, 08:34 AM   #224
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The way I see it, Cousins and his agent figured out how to beat the NFL system, not just the Skins management. If they tag you, just take the money and figure out the rest later. If they are stupid enough to tag you again next season (for a lot more money), just take the money and figure out the rest later. By then, your current team is into you for so much money they're screwed no matter what they do. Just don't do a long term deal with your current team that is structured in a way that allows them get any of that money back.

So yes, Matty. Cousins did just want to get paid. It was strictly business.
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Old 05-15-2019, 09:07 AM   #225
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I'm not sure Snyder's treatment of RG3 had anything to do with Cousins not wanting to be a Redskin. I think it was more of Cousins not liking Bruce Allen and going somewhere to get PAID.
I think it had alot to do with it . Snyder hand picked RGIII Shanahan in turn drafted Cousin who thought he could start somewhere else or at least have a better chance of playing ,I got the feeling he liked the Skins but all so felt like a pawn between Snyder and the HC ,glade he got paid it's still a business.
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