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Al Saunders Helping 'SHAPE' Raiders and Jason Campbell
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As much as this seems like a memory lane thread, it is not. The only thing important about this article is that it just shows how batshit stupid using stats as the end-all-be-all of gauging a player's performance and the insight on how one OC actually evaulates how well his QB is performing. Quote:
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07-25-2011, 11:17 AM | #2 |
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Re: Al Saunders Helping 'SHAPE' Raiders and Jason Campbell
Curious what score Saunders gave Campbell when they were both in Washington....and at the same time, I'd almost rather hear about Favre
Interesting piece nonetheless
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07-25-2011, 11:21 AM | #3 |
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Re: Al Saunders Helping 'SHAPE' Raiders and Jason Campbell
I saw this thread and was soooo ready to come in and say..... get over it. both have moved on. lol.
But the article just goes to show what I have not been saying so eliquently.... and that is although some here look to the stats and talk about them like they are golden, we fans really don't have a clue what was actually going on one each play and where the QB was supposed to go with the ball and how he changed the play. Only the coach's know and only they can make an informed decision as to whether the QB is doing his job or not and if he's playing well. The coach's look at so much more and have so much more info to work with. We fans only know what we see and only use half the statistics the coaching staff has access to. It's easy to say QB X threw whatever # of interceptions and whatever completions and say he sucks or he's decent but in reality that does not define the QB. Because we don't know on the play with an interception if the QB read the defense well or not and if he did, did he re route the WR correctly, and did he go through his progressions right. |
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So I go back to asking if your interested in him are you thinking or wondering if he could be picked up by the Skins as the backup QB? |
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07-25-2011, 11:38 AM | #5 | |
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07-25-2011, 11:42 AM | #6 |
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Re: Al Saunders Helping 'SHAPE' Raiders and Jason Campbell
How about a full blown avatar?
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07-25-2011, 01:09 PM | #7 |
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Re: Al Saunders Helping 'SHAPE' Raiders and Jason Campbell
Yawn.... JC will never be a big time QB, time to turn the page on him
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07-25-2011, 01:20 PM | #8 |
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When this did become a Raiders chat?
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07-25-2011, 01:21 PM | #9 |
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Re: Al Saunders Helping 'SHAPE' Raiders and Jason Campbell
700 pages of fun!
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07-26-2011, 01:40 AM | #10 |
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Re: Al Saunders Helping 'SHAPE' Raiders and Jason Campbell
boo al boo!
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07-26-2011, 10:33 AM | #11 |
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Re: Al Saunders Helping 'SHAPE' Raiders and Jason Campbell
I thought that Campbell was definitely progressing in some areas in Saunders' last year here. I also believe that he was a MUCH better fit for that Coryell-style passing game vs. the WCO. Guys like Trent Green and Todd Collins have both said that Saunders' offense doesn't fully click until year 3. With Campbell already familiar with the concepts, he will have a head start.
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07-26-2011, 09:07 PM | #12 |
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Re: Al Saunders Helping 'SHAPE' Raiders and Jason Campbell
C'mon it is just another hype article to get the idiots in Oakland excited about another mediocre year, just like the idiots at the Wash Post do for us. If the same Ho and coaching staff stays around for a bit, we will have way more to cheer about than Oakland ever will. Al Davis fires a coach even if he is winning!!!!!
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