The redskins performance tonight will be considered a failure if....

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's safe to say the first half was anything but a failure

I agree the first half was much better than what I expected...

[GMScud]

I was very pleased with Jason's play. Santana was really good, too. The starting O-line left a little to be desired, and the penalties were just out of control bad. But our starters had 3 scoring drives (2 tds) against their starters. That's what I wanted to see.

[Hog1]

consistency was a problem
Randy Moss was a challenge
Qb pressure..........light
BUT, they paced the Pats and came through when they had to.
.........and some of the rooks look....good!
I'm satisfied

[DBUCHANON101]

Only badthing i saw on offense was too many flags.Killed many drives when we were in short situations.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Only badthing i saw on offense was too many flags.Killed many drives when we were in short situations.

Agreed. They need to fix that. I know the refs calls can be inconsistent in the preseason, but a lot of the encroachment penalties made by the defense were inexcusable.

[The Goat]

Tonight was not a failure but there are some major concerns.

1) The oline already looks questionable. While big sacks weren't allowed there were several big hits on Jason. The line needs to get much better all around period.

2) Overall very little pressure on the QB. This worries me in the big picture sense. How w/ phat Al and Rak in there can we not get pressure on the QB? Something tells me Blache (edit) isn't scheming in a way that maximizes our talent on D.

3) Penalties. Why is this the same story year after year. Just tons of stupid penalties. We look ill-prepared and basically sloppy off and on through the game.

On the positive side JC and the air attack looks to be coming together a bit.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Tonight was not a failure but there are some major concerns.

1) The oline already looks questionable. While big sacks weren't allowed there were several big hits on Jason. The line needs to get much better all around period.

2) Overall very little pressure on the QB. This worries me in the big picture sense. How w/ phat Al and Rak in there can we not get pressure on the QB? Something tells me Blache is scheming in a way that maximizes our talent on D.

3) Penalties. Why is this the same story year after year. Just tons of stupid penalties. We look ill-prepared and basically sloppy off and on through the game.

On the positive side JC and the air attack looks to be coming together a bit.

I liked that the team did punch Brady in the mouth. Who knows how well he would have played in a regular game after getting slammed by Big Al. But as I said, I'm glad we don't face a QB/WR combo like Brady/Moss twice a year.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Tonight was not a failure but there are some major concerns.

1) The oline already looks questionable. While big sacks weren't allowed there were several big hits on Jason. The line needs to get much better all around period.

2) Overall very little pressure on the QB. This worries me in the big picture sense. How w/ phat Al and Rak in there can we not get pressure on the QB? Something tells me Blache (edit) isn't scheming in a way that maximizes our talent on D.

3) Penalties. Why is this the same story year after year. Just tons of stupid penalties. We look ill-prepared and basically sloppy off and on through the game.

On the positive side JC and the air attack looks to be coming together a bit.

I agree, especially with #2 and #3. I was disappointed by the inconsistency of the pass rush. And we had way too many penalties and some of them were really foolish.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I liked that the team did punch Brady in the mouth. Who knows how well he would have played in a regular game after getting slammed by Big Al. But as I said, I'm glad we don't face a QB/WR combo like Brady/Moss twice a year.

Can't argue w/ the freakshow of talent that is Brady/Moss. What killed me is how Hall didn't get beat he just couldn't regain position to defend the pass. Say he picks the inside on that play you're talking an INT. The 2nd Moss TD was all on Laron. He continues to disappoint IMO. I expected a breakout season from the kid but so far he's still a step or two late on many of the plays that count the most. I have a sneaking suspicion there's a lack of intensity in Landry keeping him from greatness.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I want Campbell to lead at least two scoring drives, including one touchdown

And I'd like to see us get a turnover or two as well

You got everything you asked for.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Can't argue w/ the freakshow of talent that is Brady/Moss. What killed me is how Hall didn't get beat he just couldn't regain position to defend the pass. Say he picks the inside on that play you're talking an INT. The 2nd Moss TD was all on Laron. He continues to disappoint IMO. I expected a breakout season from the kid but so far he's still a step or two late on many of the plays that count the most. I have a sneaking suspicion there's a lack of intensity in Landry keeping him from greatness.

Come on. Not sure if it was a mental mistake by one of the corners, but Moss ran inside and Laron was left all alone to cover him one on one. Name a safety in the league right now who can handle Randy Moss in man coverage. Better yet name a corner who can hanlde him one on one. Dude is other-worldly.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

You got everything you asked for.

Should've asked for more

[MTK]

Landry got fooled on the pump fake, he took a little hesitation step and that allowed Moss to blow by.

Shit happens when you're dealing with a QB and WR on top of their game.

[roth74va]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Landry got fooled on the pump fake, he took a little hesitation step and that allowed Moss to blow by.

Hall missed jamming him on the line as well, could have changed the whole play.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Landry got fooled on the pump fake, he took a little hesitation step and that allowed Moss to blow by.

Shit happens when you're dealing with a QB and WR on top of their game.

Both of Moss' TD's were sight adjustments that I don't think any other passing tandem in the league could have made. The first one was a more subtle "hey, I'm taking this inside", and the second was an in route that turned into a go when the Redskins didn't have Landry deep and Brady's first two reads were covered. The pass rush does have to get to him on that play.

The Maroney receptions were just holes in the scheme though. It's 2009, and we can't leave running backs uncovered, or matched up against lineman anymore.