Democratic debates

[CRedskinsRule]

Interesting that Pres. Obama announced his decision to leave thousands of US troops in Afghanistan after the debate

Why do we care about political promises(from both parties) anyways.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Interesting that Pres. Obama announced his decision to leave thousands of US troops in Afghanistan after the debate

Why do we care about political promises(from both parties) anyways.

the problem is that we generally use past performance as a measure for future results, and it's been proven to be a terrible way to try and predict things.

candidates do keep the majority of their promises (something like 85-90% i believe), but we always remember the ones they fail on.

not trying to absolve obama or anything, i don't think he's done a very good job overall, but i do understand the need to keep afghanistan from collapsing. I mean, we never left germany or japan, england or australia after WWII.

[Chico23231]

New Hampshire primary: Did Hillary Clinton really win the Iowa caucuses? - CNNPolitics.com

Cant believe Hillary effed this up. No way Bernie should be challenging in Iowa. Here comes the clown show, Bernie is fighting the results...

[Hog1]

She has a lot of......shit on her plate

[MTK]

Bernie is for real, that's what this is all about.

[Chico23231]

How in the hell can you have everything for free? Free college, free health care, free-paid leave....folks this is certifiably insane.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I am a big fan of Bernie. Of all the candidates in either of the major parties I like his message the best. Socialism has such a negative connotation that he labelled as such but in reality he is far from it.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

How in the hell can you have everything for free? Free college, free health care, free-paid leave....folks this is certifiably insane.

STOP IT!!!
You'll ruin the allure.......
Obama has been putting it over for years.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

How in the hell can you have everything for free? Free college, free health care, free-paid leave....folks this is certifiably insane.

Tax the wealth at the top of the mountain.

In the end I think "everything" for free is a lofty goal, a good start would be to drastically bring down the costs of education and health care.

What's truly insane is what we have now, students with massive debt and people paying crazy health care costs.

[Hog1]

But again...who will pay for the $1000.00 health care family bill that they will not be paying for?
What is the how in "bring down" the cost of education?
Or is it just empty BS?

[MTK]

https://berniesanders.com/issues/inc...th-inequality/

[Hog1]

Apparently you do not know either?
As I glossed over that tired ass shit "Rich Bad"....Poor Good BS, I did not actually see where he will pay for any of this.
Every statement he makes. Every plan he endorses appears to be...tremendously costly?
Min wage to double? $15 p/hour. Yow!
Corps bad as they move their operations to more favorable labor markets and Tax codes. I am confident doubling the min wage will do wonders to bring back American manufacturing.
The BS seems fitting for Comrade Bernie....
What am I missing?

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Hog1

But again...who will pay for the $1000.00 health care family bill that they will not be paying for?What is the how in "bring down" the cost of education?
Or is it just empty BS?

We are already doing a lot of this and it gets hidden in our insurance, taxes etc. Let's have some transparency. This is anecdotal but it is my personal experience, I have an aunt and uncle that have lived below the poverty line their entire life. They go to the doctor knowing they cannot pay when the bill comes they tell the doctor they can't and the doctor ends up billing someone's insurance for the service they provided. Generally they go the emergency room where they end up tying up an emergency physician or nurse from real emergencies. Before you start calling them liberal cheats they are fundamental baptists and basically tell you they are to the right of Genghis Khan.

[Hog1]

Comrade BS apparently is on the table to spend...many trillions in Neo rob the rich and give to poor rhetoric. Don't have any meat....nuts and bolts that I see for payment.
He literally has dozens of.....schemes that all require huge sums of money to a country that Barry O has already raped monetarily.
But no..explicit info as to how to pay for it?
If that is true...not acceptable
...loved your story Bskins!

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Apparently you do not know either?

As I glossed over that tired ass shit "Rich Bad"....Poor Good BS, I did not actually see where he will pay for any of this.

Every statement he makes. Every plan he endorses appears to be...tremendously costly?

Min wage to double? $15 p/hour. Yow!

Corps bad as they move their operations to more favorable labor markets and Tax codes. I am confident doubling the min wage will do wonders to bring back American manufacturing.

The BS seems fitting for Comrade Bernie....

What am I missing?

Not sure what's so hard to understand about shifting wealth, taxing the super wealthy and creating jobs by focusing on infrastructure. Maybe try reading up some more rather than glossing over? There's plenty of info out there, surely you don't need to be spoon fed.