Post game Packers

[mooby]

I have no complaints with Kerrigan as a pass rusher, I just wish he'd show up a little more in the run game. Now that we have a competent d-line, it should free him up to make stops when they run the ball. Same for Preston Smith.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

I have no complaints with Kerrigan as a pass rusher, I just wish he'd show up a little more in the run game. Now that we have a competent d-line, it should free him up to make stops when they run the ball. Same for Preston Smith.

Preston who?

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Preston who?

Preston is the guy I'd be more concerned with than Kerrigan, seems like he's only made a couple plays so far this season.

Also full disclosure, this is only my personal eye-test, non-researched opinion, maybe he's made a couple plays that don't show up on the stat sheet like occupying blockers so someone else can make a play, or pressuring the qb. But I know the sacks ain't there lol.

[WillH]

Just watched game all-22. Not keying in on anyone in particular. First impressions:

1. This defense is good. We made Rodgers Checkdown Charlie. Half way through the 1st quarter he gave up on getting down field passes because coverage was too good and the interior line destroyed the pocket. Their first TD drive was all quick passes, and the defense kept everything in front of them. If it were anyone else than Aaron Rodgers they would have made a mistake and thrown a pick or had an incomplete 3rd down pass somewhere along the way. He got back to it later in the game, but he only ever had time when he scrambled. Certainly the knee didn't help, particularly with the accuracy of throws on the run, but he was still slippery especially for the edge rushers who nearly got home several times.

2. Kerrigan & Co. was pressuring him especially early on and some of the Dline success was because Rodgers had to step up or couldn't get around the edge. Ultimately their impact was limited because he was slippery and began dinking and dunking and they didn't have time to get home. They also did their job in the run and screen game. Smith especially had a number of good tackles in the run game.

3. Ryan Anderson has something. He looks much improved and has more explosiveness and bend around the edge than I thought he was capable of. I think he will have 6+ sacks this year. He also stayed disciplined on the outside and reacted well on screens. This was a pleasant surprise.

4. Monte Nicholson on the other hand is an unpleasant surprise. He was fine in coverage. No complaints there. He's still fast and covers ground quickly and is an asset on coverage, although he didn't get tested because Rodgers couldn't get a deep ball off. The problem is he missed like 5 open field tackles. I think he's playing scared and doesn't want to reinjure his shoulders. Its not good and hopefully he'll play his way through it, but it looks like he's avoiding contact.

5. Doctson was open or had favorable position in a 1 on 1 matchup on many pass attempts, but there were a number of reasons the ball didn't go to him. Smith didn't have time in the pocket or was flushed in the opposite direction, the play was clearly designed for another player, or Smith on 3rd down took the sure 1st down with his legs. In different game situations he will get some of those targets.

6. Jay said GB had a good Dline, maybe that's true, but it was a little concerning how many 2 yard runs AP had. Very small nit to pick I know.

7. Bergstrom and Roullier looked very good in pass pro and good in run blocking. Chase looked a little lost on some second level blocks and on screens, but overall they looked impressive. Nsekhe was ok.

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[KI Skins Fan]

WillH, Thanks for posting your impressions from the All-22. Good information. I enjoyed reading it.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by WillH

Just watched game all-22. Not keying in on anyone in particular. First impressions:

1. This defense is good. We made Rodgers Checkdown Charlie. Half way through the 1st quarter he gave up on getting down field passes because coverage was too good and the interior line destroyed the pocket. Their first TD drive was all quick passes, and the defense kept everything in front of them. If it were anyone else than Aaron Rodgers they would have made a mistake and thrown a pick or had an incomplete 3rd down pass somewhere along the way. He got back to it later in the game, but he only ever had time when he scrambled. Certainly the knee didn't help, particularly with the accuracy of throws on the run, but he was still slippery especially for the edge rushers who nearly got home several times.

2. Kerrigan & Co. was pressuring him especially early on and some of the Dline success was because Rodgers had to step up or couldn't get around the edge. Ultimately their impact was limited because he was slippery and began dinking and dunking and they didn't have time to get home. They also did their job in the run and screen game. Smith especially had a number of good tackles in the run game.

3. Ryan Anderson has something. He looks much improved and has more explosiveness and bend around the edge than I thought he was capable of. I think he will have 6+ sacks this year. He also stayed disciplined on the outside and reacted well on screens. This was a pleasant surprise.

4. Monte Nicholson on the other hand is an unpleasant surprise. He was fine in coverage. No complaints there. He's still fast and covers ground quickly and is an asset on coverage, although he didn't get tested because Rodgers couldn't get a deep ball off. The problem is he missed like 5 open field tackles. I think he's playing scared and doesn't want to reinjure his shoulders. Its not good and hopefully he'll play his way through it, but it looks like he's avoiding contact.

5. Doctson was open or had favorable position in a 1 on 1 matchup on many pass attempts, but there were a number of reasons the ball didn't go to him. Smith didn't have time in the pocket or was flushed in the opposite direction, the play was clearly designed for another player, or Smith on 3rd down took the sure 1st down with his legs. In different game situations he will get some of those targets.

6. Jay said GB had a good Dline, maybe that's true, but it was a little concerning how many 2 yard runs AP had. Very small nit to pick I know.

7. Bergstrom and Roullier looked very good in pass pro and good in run blocking. Chase looked a little lost on some second level blocks and on screens, but overall they looked impressive. Nsekhe was ok.

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Man, my eyes didn’t fool me because I’ve seen the same thing with Monte, dude been terrible coming up on run support and tackling in general.

Good to hear about Ryan Anderson...

And maybe lauvao should stay on the sideline.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

At this point I just lol at the shit that comes out of your mouth. It's pure comedy and entertainment.

Somebody's finally getting it.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by WillH

Just watched game all-22. Not keying in on anyone in particular. First impressions:

1. This defense is good. We made Rodgers Checkdown Charlie. Half way through the 1st quarter he gave up on getting down field passes because coverage was too good and the interior line destroyed the pocket. Their first TD drive was all quick passes, and the defense kept everything in front of them. If it were anyone else than Aaron Rodgers they would have made a mistake and thrown a pick or had an incomplete 3rd down pass somewhere along the way. He got back to it later in the game, but he only ever had time when he scrambled. Certainly the knee didn't help, particularly with the accuracy of throws on the run, but he was still slippery especially for the edge rushers who nearly got home several times.

2. Kerrigan & Co. was pressuring him especially early on and some of the Dline success was because Rodgers had to step up or couldn't get around the edge. Ultimately their impact was limited because he was slippery and began dinking and dunking and they didn't have time to get home. They also did their job in the run and screen game. Smith especially had a number of good tackles in the run game.

3. Ryan Anderson has something. He looks much improved and has more explosiveness and bend around the edge than I thought he was capable of. I think he will have 6+ sacks this year. He also stayed disciplined on the outside and reacted well on screens. This was a pleasant surprise.

4. Monte Nicholson on the other hand is an unpleasant surprise. He was fine in coverage. No complaints there. He's still fast and covers ground quickly and is an asset on coverage, although he didn't get tested because Rodgers couldn't get a deep ball off. The problem is he missed like 5 open field tackles. I think he's playing scared and doesn't want to reinjure his shoulders. Its not good and hopefully he'll play his way through it, but it looks like he's avoiding contact.

5. Doctson was open or had favorable position in a 1 on 1 matchup on many pass attempts, but there were a number of reasons the ball didn't go to him. Smith didn't have time in the pocket or was flushed in the opposite direction, the play was clearly designed for another player, or Smith on 3rd down took the sure 1st down with his legs. In different game situations he will get some of those targets.

6. Jay said GB had a good Dline, maybe that's true, but it was a little concerning how many 2 yard runs AP had. Very small nit to pick I know.

7. Bergstrom and Roullier looked very good in pass pro and good in run blocking. Chase looked a little lost on some second level blocks and on screens, but overall they looked impressive. Nsekhe was ok.

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Will this is a great post.

The point on Doctson is especially useful for me because that's what you miss when you watch the game live via the sideline network cameras, you can't always see the WRs when the ball doesn't go to them. Nice to see that you feel Doctson at least represents a threat. Guys don't suddenly forget how to play football - so I always wonder what's going on when you see someone's production suddenly plummet from one year to the next. It's only three games in, and it's not like Doctson lit it up last year, but he made some key plays and so far nada. Hoping he'll make his fair share the rest of the way.

On Nicholson, there was a play later in the game where the ball went to Jimmy Graham along the sideline and Nicholson just dove at his feet. I agree he looked afraid of contact because he took his eyes off the target pretty early. I think he's not taking the right lines/angles in a lot of cases.
But for him it's more important that his range represent a threat in the deep middle. That's a big reason why the corners feel like they can be aggressive. Dunbar was money in the first game and I think it was because he felt he could play fearlessly: a) he knew the defensive line wouldn't give Bradford any time and b) he knew Montae was back there if someone got behind him.

[Chico23231]

With Doc I think it’s a chemistry thing with Smith. It could be a something as simple as Doc making a big play for Smith and the team to get that trust there.

But this also falls on Gruden to make a commitment to script a couple plays early in the game to get that connection going.

Doc has the talent...but it takes more than talent to contribute to the team.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

With Doc I think it’s a chemistry thing with Smith. It could be a something as simple as Doc making a big play for Smith and the team to get that trust there.

But this also falls on Gruden to make a commitment to script a couple plays early in the game to get that connection going.

Doc has the talent...but it takes more than talent to contribute to the team.

Alex has never had a big season with his WR's (only last yr). Tyreke Hill is just a freak, so Doc really isn't a huge part of the pass attack, neither is PR.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Alex has never had a big season with his WR's (only last yr). Tyreke Hill is just a freak, so Doc really isn't a huge part of the pass attack, neither is PR.

imo he is missing out in opportunity for bigger plays and getting the ball to multiple receivers is better strategy than feeding just one or two.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

imo he is missing out in opportunity for bigger plays and getting the ball to multiple receivers is better strategy than feeding just one or two.

I don't think he's played any different than we expected, you are right tho, he likes to spread it around. That's why I knew our guys wouldn't be great numbers guys with Alex, but I'd rather have the consistent 250 yards and 2 tds with 0 Ints. The pass last week to Reed was a miscommunication, Reed was supposed to run an out.

[WillH]

Jay did say in his press conference that he promised that Doctson will be factored into the game plan in future games so we'll see. I'm still skeptical but I was glad to see it wasn't that he was blanketed the whole time. He certainly wasn't wide open, but he often had inside leverage that with his skill set suggests to me that he could be targeted in the future.

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[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by WillH

Jay did say in his press conference that he promised that Doctson will be factored into the game plan in future games so we'll see. I'm still skeptical but I was glad to see it wasn't that he was blanketed the whole time. He certainly wasn't wide open, but he often had inside leverage that with his skill set suggests to me that he could be targeted in the future.

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Glad to hear positives about him. He has become the whipping boy for 90% of all Redskins fan. The guy is held to an absurd standard. His play style is not Desean Jackson where he's blowing by folks. Its getting a step and/or leverage and/or positioning and making a play on the ball because he's bigger, stronger, and has way more athletic ball skills than the man covering him. The more chances he gets the more AS will trust him. Looking forward to seeing the progress over the course of the season.

[skinsfaninok]

Don't know if its been posted but Breeland has signed w GB