What Type of Head Coach Does This Team Need?

SmootSmack · 09-23-2009, 08:22 AM

This isn't about should Zorn be fired, or should Shanahan (whoever) be hired.

This is more about with the current Redskins roster what type of head coach is the best fit?

Do we need a hot-shot, upstart who can relate to the young guys?

Do we need a hard-nosed disciplinarian who can keep everyone in check?

Do we need an experienced offensive mind who can help our rookies and 2nd year players?

Discuss

DBUCHANON101 · 09-23-2009, 08:26 AM

As i said on an earlier post, i think a hard nosed,in your face HC is exactly what we need. One who holds everyone accountable for their actions and will break his foot off in your @$$ if you dont do your job. Cowher.

Look what Mike has done in S.F. He may do strange things -pants down- but he has those guys playing hard.

MTK · 09-23-2009, 08:29 AM

It just needs a HC that can put points on the board.

Sorry for the obvious take but I still think Zorn has what it takes if he just gets his head out of his ass in the RZ.

FRPLG · 09-23-2009, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This isn't about should Zorn be fired, or should Shanahan (whoever) be hired.

This is more about with the current Redskins roster what type of head coach is the best fit?

Do we need a hot-shot, upstart who can relate to the young guys?

Do we need a hard-nosed disciplinarian who can keep everyone in check?

Do we need an experienced offensive mind who can help our rookies and 2nd year players?

Discuss

At this point I don't think our issues, fundamentally, are with coaching and players. I have been a big front office supporter in the past. I think Both Snyder and Cerrato have gotten an immense amount of unfair criticism. But it has been 10 years and this ship is still pretty wobbly. At some point I have to throw out all of my notions that Snyder is doing whatever it takes to win...it doesn't matter anymore to me. Even though I believe strongly he tries as hard or harder than any owner I think he simply isn't very good at it. It's not that he is too involved necessarily it that he simply has no pulse on the organization. He can't see what the deficiencies really are. We have the same issues year after year. Hell even his idol coach couldn't help him right the ship all that much. I'm not in the org so I can't say what the issues really are but the common thread among them in Snyder. So the coach that we need we'll probably never get because it's the coach who Snyder will give complete and total control to over every single thing that relates to the football product. Evene then I increasingly don't trust Dan to pick the right guy to do that.

FRPLG · 09-23-2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

As i said on an earlier post, i think a hard nosed,in your face HC is exactly what we need. One who holds everyone accountable for their actions and will break his foot off in your @$$ if you dont do your job. Cowher.

Look what Mike has done in S.F. He may do strange things -pants down- but he has those guys playing hard.

He also has a young team. We don't...that kind of act would be a disaster here.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-23-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

He also has a young team. We don't...that kind of act would be a disaster here.

Hint hint. maybe a youth movement is needed.

Ruhskins · 09-23-2009, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

This isn't about should Zorn be fired, or should Shanahan (whoever) be hired.

This is more about with the current Redskins roster what type of head coach is the best fit?

Do we need a hot-shot, upstart who can relate to the young guys?

Do we need a hard-nosed disciplinarian who can keep everyone in check?

Do we need an experienced offensive mind who can help our rookies and 2nd year players?

Discuss

I think an experienced offensive mind would have helped greatly. Zorn still can become that, but a coordinator with more offensive playcalling experience would have been great given our anemic offense.

Which sort of makes me realize that Grilliams or Spags would not have worked here.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-23-2009, 08:46 AM

Our Oline is aged and ineffective, MLB, and our Backfield are well seasoned.

FRPLG · 09-23-2009, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Hint hint. maybe a youth movement is needed.

Yes more total rebuilding...just what we all want.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-23-2009, 08:54 AM

Dare i say it, we passed on Josh McDaniels. say what you want about the Cutler deal but his offense is scoring and spreading defenses out so his players can make plays. 2 things that come up that Zorn hasnt done.

KI Skins Fan · 09-23-2009, 08:58 AM

I think we need a HC who is a proven winner. He has to be experienced but young enough to lead the team energetically for the next seven to ten years.

I'm a Bill Cowher fan. I don't think of him so much as a disciplinarian but rather as a very intense leader and motivator.

Honestly, Jim Zorn is doing a better job than I thought he would. The difficulty he is facing is that he is learning how to be a HC and a play-caller while on the job. If he makes it past this season, I think he could become the type of HC I described.

Ruhskins · 09-23-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DBUCHANON101

Dare i say it, we passed on Josh McDaniels. say what you want about the Cutler deal but his offense is scoring and spreading defenses out so his players can make plays. 2 things that come up that Zorn hasnt done.

His offense scored 27 pts. in the first game and 6 pts. in the second game before that fluke of a TD. So they had one game where they score points and one where they score few points, how is that any different than us? Other than they are 2-0, when they should be 1-1.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-23-2009, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FRPLG

Yes more total rebuilding...just what we all want.

So you are fine with our old Oline and other positions that need to be addressed?? I didnt say scrap the whole team but there are areas where we need to bring in younger talent.

DBUCHANON101 · 09-23-2009, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

His offense scored 27 pts. in the first game and 6 pts. in the second game before that fluke of a TD. So they had one game where they score points and one where they score few points, how is that any different than us? Other than they are 2-0, when they should be 1-1.

Im just saying that he spreads things out so his guys can make plays and he is aggressive in his playcalling --trusts his QB--. Who would have thought Buckhalter would look like mini-westbrook? -to this point-

roth74va · 09-23-2009, 09:21 AM

Although I do agree we could use more discipline(Cowher), I see the majority of our struggles being on the offensive side of the ball. Maybe Zorn will right the ship, and figure out how to score TD's and not FG's. Jerry Gray is a longtime Williams/Blache assistant, and Id like to see him given a shot with defensive coordinator once Blache is done.

As for head coach, and I hope Zorn figures it out, IMO we would want to go offensive minded, WITH PLAYCALLING EXPERIENCE lol. Others have mentioned B.Schottenheimer who is alot younger, or a Shanahan/Holmgren type. The older guys would be short-term fixes, so Id prefer someone younger. Although if Holmgren came here, Im sure he would want total control, which might be the real blessing.

09-23-2009, 08:22 AM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	What Type of Head Coach Does This Team Need? This isn't about should Zorn be fired, or should Shanahan (whoever) be hired. This is more about with the current Redskins roster what type of head coach is the best fit? Do we need a hot-shot, upstart who can relate to the young guys? Do we need a hard-nosed disciplinarian who can keep everyone in check? Do we need an experienced offensive mind who can help our rookies and 2nd year players? Discuss __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

09-23-2009, 08:26 AM	#2
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: What Type of Head Coach Does This Team Need? As i said on an earlier post, i think a hard nosed,in your face HC is exactly what we need. One who holds everyone accountable for their actions and will break his foot off in your @$$ if you dont do your job. Cowher. Look what Mike has done in S.F. He may do strange things -pants down- but he has those guys playing hard. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

09-23-2009, 08:29 AM	#3
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,351	Re: What Type of Head Coach Does This Team Need? It just needs a HC that can put points on the board. Sorry for the obvious take but I still think Zorn has what it takes if he just gets his head out of his ass in the RZ. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

09-23-2009, 08:46 AM	#8
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: What Type of Head Coach Does This Team Need? Our Oline is aged and ineffective, MLB, and our Backfield are well seasoned. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

09-23-2009, 08:54 AM	#10
DBUCHANON101 The Starter Join Date: May 2009 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,373	Re: What Type of Head Coach Does This Team Need? Dare i say it, we passed on Josh McDaniels. say what you want about the Cutler deal but his offense is scoring and spreading defenses out so his players can make plays. 2 things that come up that Zorn hasnt done. __________________ But there's booze in the blender. And soon it will render. That frozen concoction that helps me hang on.

09-23-2009, 08:58 AM	#11
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,281	Re: What Type of Head Coach Does This Team Need? I think we need a HC who is a proven winner. He has to be experienced but young enough to lead the team energetically for the next seven to ten years. I'm a Bill Cowher fan. I don't think of him so much as a disciplinarian but rather as a very intense leader and motivator. Honestly, Jim Zorn is doing a better job than I thought he would. The difficulty he is facing is that he is learning how to be a HC and a play-caller while on the job. If he makes it past this season, I think he could become the type of HC I described.

09-23-2009, 09:21 AM	#15
roth74va Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 336	Re: What Type of Head Coach Does This Team Need? Although I do agree we could use more discipline(Cowher), I see the majority of our struggles being on the offensive side of the ball. Maybe Zorn will right the ship, and figure out how to score TD's and not FG's. Jerry Gray is a longtime Williams/Blache assistant, and Id like to see him given a shot with defensive coordinator once Blache is done. As for head coach, and I hope Zorn figures it out, IMO we would want to go offensive minded, WITH PLAYCALLING EXPERIENCE lol. Others have mentioned B.Schottenheimer who is alot younger, or a Shanahan/Holmgren type. The older guys would be short-term fixes, so Id prefer someone younger. Although if Holmgren came here, Im sure he would want total control, which might be the real blessing.

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