Ron Rivera

[Schneed10]

Yeah I don't agree that there would be damaging fallout from firing Rivera. First of all, at this point there's no more damage that can be done that Danny hasn't already brought upon the organization. They need to be in the business of putting butts back in seats and the longer you let a coach hang around who fans perceive has no chance of getting the team back to winning, the more fan apathy builds up. Which leads to empty seats.

How his firing would go over in NFL circles or in the court public opinion is a much smaller concern when compared with what NFL teams actually care about: profitability. The almighty dollar trumps all in the NFL. They need a team that will win.

That's the same reason though that they'll likely hang onto Rivera through year four and then make a move. They're not going to fire him with two years left on the contract. Costs too much.

After year 4 if he hasn't shown progress, and my money says he won't, he'll be gone. As he should. Because you're in this business to win and make money. Nothing else matters.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I don't agree that there would be damaging fallout from firing Rivera. First of all, at this point there's no more damage that can be done that Danny hasn't already brought upon the organization. They need to be in the business of putting butts back in seats and the longer you let a coach hang around who fans perceive has no chance of getting the team back to winning, the more fan apathy builds up. Which leads to empty seats.

How his firing would go over in NFL circles or in the court public opinion is a much smaller concern when compared with what NFL teams actually care about: profitability. The almighty dollar trumps all in the NFL. They need a team that will win.

That's the same reason though that they'll likely hang onto Rivera through year four and then make a move. They're not going to fire him with two years left on the contract. Costs too much.

After year 4 if he hasn't shown progress, and my money says he won't, he'll be gone. As he should. Because you're in this business to win and make money. Nothing else matters.

Ill plus 1 this. But I respect both opinions and i agree with Mooby. Coff should post more.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Yeah I don't agree that there would be damaging fallout from firing Rivera. First of all, at this point there's no more damage that can be done that Danny hasn't already brought upon the organization. They need to be in the business of putting butts back in seats and the longer you let a coach hang around who fans perceive has no chance of getting the team back to winning, the more fan apathy builds up. Which leads to empty seats.

How his firing would go over in NFL circles or in the court public opinion is a much smaller concern when compared with what NFL teams actually care about: profitability. The almighty dollar trumps all in the NFL. They need a team that will win.

That's the same reason though that they'll likely hang onto Rivera through year four and then make a move. They're not going to fire him with two years left on the contract. Costs too much.

After year 4 if he hasn't shown progress, and my money says he won't, he'll be gone. As he should. Because you're in this business to win and make money. Nothing else matters.

I agree with you that I think he'll be back. But let's say they only win like 3 games, and have a top 3 pick in the draft. If they only won like 3 games then Wentz obviously didn't work out...and they could possibly draft one of the QBs this year...do you want the same regime to start over with a new QB...or do you come in with a new coaching staff with the new QB?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Redskins247

I agree with you that I think he'll be back. But let's say they only win like 3 games, and have a top 3 pick in the draft. If they only won like 3 games then Wentz obviously didn't work out...and they could possibly draft one of the QBs this year...do you want the same regime to start over with a new QB...or do you come in with a new coaching staff with the new QB?

Are you asking what I'd like to see happen, or what I think Danny will do?

If they're horrible enough to get a top 3 pick I'd like to see Ron canned after this season, pick a new regime, and let them make the draft selection.

But I don't think Danny cans this coaching staff with 2 years remaining on Ron's deal. Too much money for him to fork over.

I don't think they'll be quite that horrible anyway. We're going to be stuck in this 7-10 purgatory again this year.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Are you asking what I'd like to see happen, or what I think Danny will do?

If they're horrible enough to get a top 3 pick I'd like to see Ron canned after this season, pick a new regime, and let them make the draft selection.

But I don't think Danny cans this coaching staff with 2 years remaining on Ron's deal. Too much money for him to fork over.

I don't think they'll be quite that horrible anyway. We're going to be stuck in this 7-10 purgatory again this year.

Accurate. Season is too long for us to be this terrible all year. We'll get better, maybe surprise a team or two - but we'll definitely be in that mediocre range again this year.

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Are you asking what I'd like to see happen, or what I think Danny will do?

If they're horrible enough to get a top 3 pick I'd like to see Ron canned after this season, pick a new regime, and let them make the draft selection.

But I don't think Danny cans this coaching staff with 2 years remaining on Ron's deal. Too much money for him to fork over.

I don't think they'll be quite that horrible anyway. We're going to be stuck in this 7-10 purgatory again this year.

Yeah I was asking what you think Dan would do in that situation if they did have that bad of a season. Again, I think you're right and they'll win just enough to do it all over again next season...but there's a chance they could be bad enough to make all that happen. One more starter knocked out on the Oline and that may do it.

[SunnySide]

I do believe that people .. player or coach .. get a chance to rebound, to adjust, a chance to respond to adversity.

Lets give Ron and company 4-6 more games to see if they can right some wrongs here. See if they can coach, see if they can adjust and game plan.

[skinsfaninok]

Next 6 games

@ DAL
V TEN
@ CHI
V GB
@ INDY
V MIN

If they come away with that 3-3 I'd be surprised. Only Chicago and Indy are 2 I'm actually confident in but both of those teams have solid defenses so its a toss up

[BaltimoreSkins]

I think 3-3 is doable. I am concerned with Dallas but not sold at all on Tennessee they are weak. Minnesota- JJ will eat up our secondary but they are beatable. GB is probably a loss but we have been playing them close.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I think 3-3 is doable. I am concerned with Dallas but not sold at all on Tennessee they are weak. Minnesota- JJ will eat up our secondary but they are beatable. GB is probably a loss but we have been playing them close.

If we beat Dallas Sunday I'd be very surprised. They are playing well and that defense is NASTY.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If we beat Dallas Sunday I'd be very surprised. They are playing well and that defense is NASTY.

Yeah I don't see that as a W. If we go 3-3 it will be because of wins against Indy, Chi, Minn or Ten

[jamf]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

I think 3-3 is doable. I am concerned with Dallas but not sold at all on Tennessee they are weak. Minnesota- JJ will eat up our secondary but they are beatable. GB is probably a loss but we have been playing them close.

There is a higher probability of Chico and I spitroasting Jessica Alba than going 3-3 over the next 6 games.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by jamf

There is a higher probability of Chico and I spitroasting Jessica Alba than going 3-3 over the next 6 games.

haha

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

haha

Come on have a lil faith in Jamf and I

I just hope Alba put on some weight, if not, she might get folded

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by jamf

There is a higher probability of Chico and I spitroasting Jessica Alba than going 3-3 over the next 6 games.

So you are saying there's a chance