Around the League Week 2

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

People that don't think Kirk is good QB just don't like him for personal reasons. Watch the Amazon Prime and tell me that Kirk is not only a good QB, but he's tough as nails.

Vikes can't run the ball and can't stop the run. That's bad news for any team. It's early but the Eagles certainly look beatable. If Jefferson does not fumble that ball at the end of the half it's a totally different game.

he is a good QB . . . just not a great one!

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

he is a good QB . . . just not a great one!

He's got great stats though...

I would suspect all but 4-6 NFL teams would consider Cousin's to replace their current starter, including us. But he isn't a carry the team on his back kind of QB. To win a SB he'd need a complete team around him, something he's never really had.

Personally, I'd put Cousins in the same group as the likes of Herbert, Stafford etc.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

He's got great stats though...

I would suspect all but 4-6 NFL teams would consider Cousin's to replace their current starter, including us. But he isn't a carry the team on his back kind of QB. To win a SB he'd need a complete team around him, something he's never really had.

Personally, I'd put Cousins in the same group as the likes of Herbert, Stafford etc.

I think that number is a bit on the high side . . .

would not consider:

Baltimore Ravens
Buffalo Bills . . . and im not sure the 49ers would any longer with the way Purdy is playing either.
Carolina Panthers (maybe to start and mentor Young, but not long term)
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns (not yet anyway they think a ton of Watson or they wouldn't have paid such a huge price for him)
Dallas Cowboys
Indianapolis Colts (maybe to start and mentor Richardon, but really doubt it, and definitely not long term)
JAcksonville
Kansas City
Los Angeles Chargers
Miami Dolphins
New Orleans Saints
New York Jets (when rogers was healthy anyway)
Eagles

that is 14 teams right there . . . others are close like Garoppolo and Fields (Bears believe in him, i don't)

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

He's got great stats though...

I would suspect all but 4-6 NFL teams would consider Cousin's to replace their current starter, including us. But he isn't a carry the team on his back kind of QB. To win a SB he'd need a complete team around him, something he's never really had.

Personally, I'd put Cousins in the same group as the likes of Herbert, Stafford etc.

I think it's funny when people say something like: "To win a SB he'd need a complete team around him...". My guess is that there aren't a lot of quarterbacks who have won a Super Bowl by themselves.

[Meks]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

I think that number is a bit on the high side . . .

would not consider:

Baltimore Ravens
Buffalo Bills . . . and im not sure the 49ers would any longer with the way Purdy is playing either.
Carolina Panthers (maybe to start and mentor Young, but not long term)
Cincinnati Bengals
Cleveland Browns (not yet anyway they think a ton of Watson or they wouldn't have paid such a huge price for him)
Dallas Cowboys
Indianapolis Colts (maybe to start and mentor Richardon, but really doubt it, and definitely not long term)
JAcksonville
Kansas City
Los Angeles Chargers
Miami Dolphins
New Orleans Saints
New York Jets (when rogers was healthy anyway)
Eagles

that is 14 teams right there . . . others are close like Garoppolo and Fields (Bears believe in him, i don't)

Well,

Kirk > Carr, Jimmy g so deduct those you're at about 12 leaving 20 some odd in one way or the other... more and half of those prolly take kirk over the incumbent. The rookies are an exception. If those teams may have had kirk they may not draft those rookies.

All a what if game and a useless one at that. To each their own opinions.

Fuck the eagles. Biggest frauds ever and hurts is McNabb 2.0 except McNabb was a better qb.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

I think it's funny when people say something like: "To win a SB he'd need a complete team around him...". My guess is that there aren't a lot of quarterbacks who have won a Super Bowl by themselves.

I mean he's not a difference maker on his own. Say you swapped him for Mahomes in his 2 SB runs. There are a number of times Mahomes ability overcame shortcomings of his team, notably protection and some unbelievable throws. Cousins would have lost key games Mahomes won, despite great numbers, because he couldn't have overcome those shortcomings. Likely that means playoffs missed or losses in the playoffs.

If he were the Ravens QB for the 2000 or 2012 seasons, probably the same outcome. And he definitely better than Dilfer or Flacco in their prime.

To win a SB he needs to not be required to do something special.

[Chief X_Phackter]

I remember Chad Henne coming in for Mahomes - and KC probably wouldn't have won that game and gone on to the SB if it weren't for the plays he made - in conjunction with the rest of the team around him.

K Cousins would be a fine SB QB. It's just not easy to get there. You need a great team in all three phases and sometimes a little luck.

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Meks

Well,

Kirk > Carr, Jimmy g so deduct those you're at about 12 leaving 20 some odd in one way or the other... more and half of those prolly take kirk over the incumbent. The rookies are an exception. If those teams may have had kirk they may not draft those rookies.

All a what if game and a useless one at that. To each their own opinions.

Fuck the eagles. Biggest frauds ever and hurts is McNabb 2.0 except McNabb was a better qb.

he maybe slightly better than Carr, but New Orleans gave Carr a big contract so they wouldn't . . . and Jimmy G wasn't counted in the 14. He is a middle of the pack QB that gets TONS of stats when it means nothing. The Vikings had a really good defense when he got there. And a pretty good offense. They thought he was the missing piece to a Super Bowl trophy. How did that work out for them? They are nowhere near the team they were prior to his arrival. Part of that is on Cousins and his guaranteed contract which at the time was the highest ever.

[Meks]

Point being is circumstances of rookies contracts etc aside, nearly half the teams in the league would take em

[SkinsGuru]

Originally Posted by Meks

Point being is circumstances of rookies contracts etc aside, nearly half the teams in the league would take em

maybe . . . never said he sucked . . . just that you had stated all but 4 or 6 . . . now its all but 13 - 15. big difference.

[AnonEmouse]

Originally Posted by SkinsGuru

maybe . . . never said he sucked . . . just that you had stated all but 4 or 6 . . . now its all but 13 - 15. big difference.

I said 4-6 not Meks. With a bit deeper thought about it, I'd say there are more like 10 that would never take him over their current starters. There are a few more that were he on the roster already he would likely be starter while their young QB learnt (Colts, Texans, us etc.).

[skinsfaninok]

NYG are bad


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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

NYG are bad


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Giants are gunning for that #1 overall pick.

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[Ruhskins]

Ouch:

"The Giants have been outscored 60-0 in the first 6 quarters of their 2023 season"

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[skinsfaninok]

Giants great comeback

Parsons best player in football


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