"A Lot of These Guys Don't Want It"

[dmvskinzfan08]

Our team is SOFT. Softer than cotton balls and stuffed animals. I saw certain players on the sidelines pouting like girls that lost their prom dates when we were still in the game. Some didn't even give a flying fig to even pout.

We have no fire. We play so lackadaisical. I never saw a Skins team this fragile.

[GTripp0012]

I think you could say the Lions showed more heart than we did, but going any further than that gives me the intangi-jeebies

[tootergray34]

they won't make a move until the bye week...and that is if they make a move. that's been reported from andy schefter from espn.com if that's worth anything.

not sure if i spelt his name correctly or not.

[Swarley]

I miss the G. Williams days when we had everyone that could involved on a tackle....

[skinsfaninok]

Sad guys just sad...

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

I'm still in shock that this even happened. I feel like Jim Zorn's hair.

[Skinny Tee]

That D. Hall interview is just scathing.

He is really calling people out and he is only in his first year as a full time Redskin. He is certainly going to draw attention within the team doing that.

[JGisLordOfTheRings]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

That D. Hall interview is just scathing.

He is really calling people out and he is only in his first year as a full time Redskin. He is certainly going to draw attention within the team doing that.

Yeah and for somebody who has done nothing except get blown up whenever the ball is thrown his way, I think he should be quiet. The D as a whole played like garbage, save London Fletcher who is out there by himself.

[jsarno]

I'm on Hall's side...you can tell the team has no heart, and no desire to win. Whether or not you agree with Hall saying it, doesn't mean he's not on to something.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by jsarno

I'm on Hall's side...you can tell the team has no heart, and no desire to win. Whether or not you agree with Hall saying it, doesn't mean he's not on to something.

He seems like he's one blow up away from just naming names.

Out with it Hall, you really couldn't make this team any worse.

He's gotta be talking about Haynesworth and Landry.

[skinsfan69]

He better look in the freakin mirror before he call guys out.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

He seems like he's one blow up away from just naming names.

Out with it Hall, you really couldn't make this team any worse.

He's gotta be talking about Haynesworth and Landry.

That would be sweet...we all want to know.
This team just has no heart...plain and simple.

[Swarley]

putting this together with his locker room interview I think he's talking about the younger guys, not so much Big Al and Landry.

[poopoobigelow]

i've soured on zorn for many reasons, but, i was thinking that before this game today, if we lost, we should still stick with zorn through the season... i'm not a knee-jerk fan...

however, i could tell that the players didn't care today, especially in the first half, especially the defense, except for fletcher, jc, doughty, rocky, horton... i think that zorn and/or blache have lost the locker room... if the players aren't going to give it their all because of a coach--whether the reason is just or not--it's time to let the coach go...

the players don't believe in zorn, and if that's the case, we're not winning many (any?) more games this year...

[GTripp0012]

I'd take that a step further. Zorn being a bad coach has nothing to do with the Detroit loss. The Redskins just feature all the aspects of a poorly coached team: sideline disorganization, poor tempo in the huddle, playing time going to people who have not earned it, and lots of decisions being made to sustain rather than on merit. None of those things actually significantly hurt your chances of winning (though the disorganization on the sideline doesn't help), and certainly none of those things contributed to the loss to the Lions.

But whether because Zorn has too many responsibilities, and not enough help, or because he's failing at his job, the result is a team that is poorly coached, and that can stunt player development.

One reason I like Jon Gruden is because he's a complete workaholic and can handle many hats. I think Zorn is putting in the same time that Holmgren did, but he's got way more control over the long term direction of the franchise than Mike did down the stretch in Seattle. Understandably, I think he's cutting some corners.